View Full Version : NEW ALBUM: Someday World (hyde+eno)
ThingInABook
02-25-2014, 07:18 AM
hey, preorders are out!
http://underworldlive.spinshop.com/store/underworldlive.spinshop.com/Home
yes, i'm shocked. who wouldn't? though i was expecting an underworld album produced by eno.
EDIT: forgot to say that I LOVE THE COVER IT'S SUPER PRETTY I WANT A POSTER OMG
industri_studios
02-25-2014, 09:20 AM
Does anyone know... the Deluxe CD says it's a 2CD version - any idea what's on the second disc?
(Wondering if I need vinyl & CD here or not LOL)
fastone
02-25-2014, 09:29 AM
Four bonus tracks apparently
jetpig
02-25-2014, 09:30 AM
Do the other half and I buy two CDs or a CD and a vinyl? (but then who gets them?!) Also that 24 bit WAV download looks tasty toooooo.
ThingInABook
02-25-2014, 10:49 AM
according to warp's site (http://warp.net/records/enohyde/someday-world-out-may), the bonus tracks are:
01. Big Band Song
02. Brazil 3
03. Celebration
04. Titian Bekh
here's a large version of the album cover:
http://www.enohyde.com/img/warp249_packshot.jpg
crank
02-25-2014, 11:37 AM
Guessing these tracks were born out of the Pure Scenious shows?
Also, i sure would like to hear a track before a pre-order...
Dirty0900
02-25-2014, 01:46 PM
Wasn't there a Brian Eno/Underworld track on an old radio show? Sure they talked about fishing.
ThingInABook
02-25-2014, 02:12 PM
Wasn't there a Brian Eno/Underworld track on an old radio show? Sure they talked about fishing.
:O that's news to me. any kind soul willing to share?
TheBang
02-25-2014, 02:32 PM
There was an Underworld/Eno jam track on the 2008-12-11 Bungalow with Stairs show.
ultradave
02-25-2014, 02:47 PM
Wasn't Beebop Hurry a Hyde / Eno collaboration? It seems to me that it's something purely experimental and highly improvised. May be cool or it could just be really good background music, say, for an art exhibition. :D
I think I just might wait for this to drop on Spotify so I can sample. I'd probably opt for the vinyl on this release for collection purposes.:cool:
TheBang
02-25-2014, 03:19 PM
There's a 24-bit WAV file version available on the Underworld Shop
jetpig
02-25-2014, 11:02 PM
There's a 24-bit WAV file version available on the Underworld Shop
This excites me. Probably gonna grab this as a digital copy and a vinyl for physical posterity.
DaddyAdv
02-26-2014, 10:22 AM
http://www.underworldlive.com/news/2014/02/eno-%C2%B7-hyde-new-album-someday-world/
jetpig
02-26-2014, 11:40 AM
Anyone know if the 24-bit wav will have the bonus tracks? Doesn't appear that it will...
Dirty0900
02-26-2014, 12:01 PM
Extra tracks on the CD only?
ThingInABook
02-26-2014, 01:47 PM
There was an Underworld/Eno jam track on the 2008-12-11 Bungalow with Stairs show.
thankyou for pointing that out :)
mickstafa
03-04-2014, 07:21 AM
Here's the first track:
http://www.underworldlive.com/music/2014/03/eno-%E2%80%A2-hyde-someday-world/
ThingInABook
03-04-2014, 07:29 AM
Dear Brian/Karl,
Could anyone get rid of those brass stabs? Or get a real brass section?
Thanks,
-thingee
crank
03-04-2014, 08:35 AM
Has vague notions of New Order towards the end.
Dirty0900
03-04-2014, 12:50 PM
I like that a lot.
Andrea
03-04-2014, 01:03 PM
Hmmm… I like the structure and the melody, even though it sounds like an old synth pop (I think it´s called) sometimes, but it feels unfinished in a way.
Would have been nice with real brass instruments indeed and better vocals (sorry but I do love Karl´s voice :) )
whatmakesustick
03-04-2014, 01:08 PM
Yeah! It's upbeat :) well maybe not upbeat. Maybe I mean uptempo. Point is I like it too - definitely a New Order vibe.
potatobroth
03-04-2014, 06:03 PM
I'm not sure what to say about this. The horns, on first 2 listens, really cheapen the overall piece quite a bit. It reminded me of They Might Be Giants - before TMBG could afford to hire a brass section to record/tour with them; I like TMBG.
But it just sounds really disconnected to me. Right now. Music does tend to grow on me, but if this wasn't Hyde or Eno I wouldn't have given it the second listen. Maybe I'll go at it again tomorrow and see how it feels.
jetpig
03-04-2014, 11:28 PM
I'm iffy on it myself. For what it's worth, though, I usually need the context of an album to really get something. Cut Clouds didn't do to much for me at first, either.
bazwint
03-06-2014, 07:43 AM
Nice surprise. I like that better than anything on Edgeland.
holden
03-07-2014, 04:11 PM
Similar response to many - i like hearing Karl's voice on something new, but the track, as a whole, sounds dated and random. Not every creative output is ready for mass audience.
Here's hoping the rest of the LP is more introspective. Personally, i like the jazzy improv of "Beebop Hurry" and the minimal compositions of "edgeland".
the mongoose
03-11-2014, 12:28 PM
Hmmmm, yeah. :( Not even something that I would listen to for a second time to get used to or "learn to like it" etc. Really not looking forward to this album...even less than I was before I heard it, ugh.
Professor
03-23-2014, 05:57 PM
i think it's the shittiest thing i've ever heard kh be a part of. the brass is awful, teh vox is treated poorly and lyrically it says nothing to me. where is the emotion and the space?
i pre ordered the vinyl before i heard the first track. it can only get better.
jetpig
03-24-2014, 12:36 PM
I almost feel guilty about how unexcited I am for an Eno/Hyde album. :\
potatobroth
03-25-2014, 08:29 AM
I almost feel guilty about how unexcited I am for an Eno/Hyde album. :\
wow. without realizing it until now, so do I.
TheBang
03-28-2014, 04:23 AM
Daddy's Car was played on BBC yesterday:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03ywwk9
But I've ripped it, and you can download it directly here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/z2m4d2imzbf829r/daddyscar.m4a
potatobroth
03-28-2014, 07:22 AM
hmm
holden
03-30-2014, 07:08 PM
hmm, indeed!
The 30 seconds or so of preview were in the same vein as the first promo track - jittery beats and 80's synths, with Karl's clean vocals atop. Maybe i'll grow to like to whole track, but in a quick burst, it wasn't super exciting...
EDIT: listened to the 3:26 track at the link provided above. Same feelings that this was a rushed partnership, where the snippets of songs were expanded beyond their strength. It just sounds dated, sorry!
potatobroth
03-31-2014, 07:48 AM
for my tastes, this album is 0 for 2.
TheBang
04-17-2014, 07:36 PM
There is a 750 copy limited edition version of the vinyl coming out. The limited part is an exclusive art print included (I don't think it's signed or anything). Apparently this edition is only available through indie record stores in the UK and EU.
You can find it by Googling for the catalog number: WARPLP249X
For example, here are some retailers:
http://www.roughtrade.com/albums/81573
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/prod/EnoHyde-SomedayWorldIndiesVinylExclusivePrintEdition-Warp-95909.html
http://www.normanrecords.com/records/145802-eno-hyde-someday-world-
http://www.recordstore.co.uk/recordstore/recordstore/Someday-World-Art-Print/3A840000000
crank
04-22-2014, 08:41 AM
I just wish i cared… sadly I don't.
testudo
04-28-2014, 05:12 AM
For anyone interested. You can hear 1:30 clips of the entire album at the Japanese iTunes site right now (by launching iTunes)
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/someday-world-bonus-track/id820642946
ThingInABook
04-28-2014, 08:46 AM
npr is streaming the whole thing here:
http://www.npr.org/2014/04/27/306161810/first-listen-brian-eno-karl-hyde-someday-world
i'm in track 5 and i'm liking it. it's super fun, even if it's a bit noisey sometimes.
mickstafa
04-28-2014, 09:57 AM
From the NPR article:
[clip]
That collaborative spirit continues with Someday World — recorded with former Underworld member/vocalist Karl Hyde — which includes 12 other players, including Roxy Music's own Andy Mackay.
[clip]
crank
04-28-2014, 12:16 PM
The version i see reads thusly:
"That collaborative spirit continues with Someday World — recorded with Underworld member/vocalist Karl Hyde — which includes 12 other players, including Roxy Music's own Andy Mackay. For many U.S. listeners, Underworld remains a one-hit wonder, responsible for the raging techno of "Born Slippy" from the Trainspotting soundtrack."
jetpig
04-28-2014, 12:36 PM
Now includes this bolded correction at the top:
Correction April 28, 2014
An earlier version of this story referred to Karl Hyde as a "former" member of Underworld. He is still the frontman for that group.
mickstafa
04-28-2014, 12:43 PM
Must have been edited since. :)
Andrea
04-28-2014, 03:36 PM
The first thing I did was to start to sing when I heard To Us All.
Beautiful!
holden
04-28-2014, 08:23 PM
Oh dear.
Well, not much else happening, so here's a track-by-track review, FWIW.
Opening track "Satellites" is interesting for all of 28 seconds, until the mess of Casio Brass heads in. Around 2 minutes, when Karl and Brian start singing, my thoughts are - first, their voices don't really compliment each other, and two, why does the bassline sound like farts?
Tried "Daddy's Car" again...managed to like the first 50 seconds into this one, thanks to the beat, though the synthbass line was pretty dated... and then, brass nonsense and "oooh" chorals again. Can't take Karl's vocals seriously with Wang Chung playing in the background.
"Man Wakes Up": Dated, phased keyboards with "oo" "oo" effects - reminds me of a Was (Not Was) outtake. Again, Karl's vocals (and presumably guitar) is diminished to a the least common denominator of what we know he's capable of.
"Witness" - melody's okay, but the repeated vocals and guitar/piano feature was a bit cloying to start Stick with it and it the female vocal recalls Lemon Interrupt/UW mkii "Eclipse" era. This one straddles the line between annoying and catchy.
"Strip it Down" - Starts with a simple one-note bass, two note guitar figure (with some flourishes), then layers on the (synth) piano and extra guitar riffs... has some potential till the vocal again. I'm not sure; "Edgeland" was pleasant enough, but i think i prefer when Karl's vocals are more monotonous/vocoded. I just don't love the more "traditional" melodies herein. Still, some interesting counterpoints.
"Mother of a Dog" - i have nothing nice to say, so i will say nothing more on this.
"Who Rings the Bell" - ok, i kind of like how the one note guitar evolves into three-note pattern and overlaps the growing effect. Maybe "Who barks like a dog?" reminds me of "Dogman Go Woof", but this almost evokes Dubno era mkii for me (though Mother of a Dog does not! Some dogs are just dogs). Anyway, fairly pleasant, minus the chorus near the end.
"When I Built This World" - err, dated sounds and single one-note patterns again. Really odd key shift in the second minute, and the effect on Karl's vocal is unusual.... then, ~1:40 in, it's time to lay on the brass again. This track is a mess. Is it for a Halloween Spooky Sound Effects album? Is it an Erasure out-take? Were the vocals stolen from Depeche Mode during a creative dry-spell? Oh, it's bizarre, and not in a good way.
Thank goodness, the album closer "To Us All" - kinda nice guitar figures, recalling the "Sunshine" soundtrack noodles (What were they called? "Mercury" or "Jelly Blue"?) - the vocals are forgettable, and one of the vocal tracks (can't tell if Karl or Brian) is screamed a bit out of tune with the other. Otherwise, it's uplifting, but ends very suddenly.
Overall, i stand by my prior assertion that these tracks are snippets that don't really constitute finished tracks, and the majority of them sound really dated. Eno revisiting Roxy Music, Karl remembering UW mki. Sure, vintage and retro is cool, sometimes, but a lot of the 80's music still sounds cheesy, and these synth-heavy tracks with uber-earnest vocals about nothing recall that forgettable musical era.
Again, i think both artists are extremely gifted, but these tracks sound incomplete or, overly-layered with really simple patterns in an attempt to disguise incompleteness. Not every idea needs recorded.
testudo
04-29-2014, 04:19 AM
For anyone missing the VERY old days of Underworld (Mark 1). This album is sort of a "what if..." It is a time machine into a past that never was. As if Karl was under the direction of Mr. Eno in the early eighties.
Andrea
04-30-2014, 05:49 PM
Oh come on, it is not so bad. But Eno should definitely not sing.
That short distorted guitar part in Mother of A Dog is really awesome.
crank
05-01-2014, 02:23 PM
Oh come on, it is not so bad. But Eno should definitely not sing.
That short distorted guitar part in Mother of A Dog is really awesome.
"It's not that bad" should be applied to groups that don't have the cache that Underworld and Eno of built. This is merely okay and wouldn't have been released had Hyde's or Eno's name been attached.
I'm a fan, but there are just some things that should stay on the table as possible ideas then get fleshed out a bit better. Passengers is a great example of a a collaboration Eno did with u2. This one, not so much.
Andrea
05-01-2014, 03:27 PM
"not that bad" or "merely okay" - Well, my english is not so good so I don't know the difference.
Anyway, I'm just judging what I hear today regardless of their background.
holden
05-01-2014, 10:00 PM
I still don't think this album is "merely okay" or "not bad". It's actually pretty bad. Unless you yearn for the sounds of mid-eighties synthpop, this is very disappointing. Two great creative minds have collaborated before (Pure Scenious, and "beebop hurry") to fine results. Here, its just a mess...really simple melodies get layered with cheesy keys, obvious lyrics are stretched thin.
Sorry, I love UW and all prior side projects, but won't be buying this.
Andrea
05-02-2014, 11:37 AM
You know, I think that was exactly their intention.
It sounds like they made it for themselves and their friends just for fun. So why take it so seriously? Everyone has the right to have fun, even those with famous names.
But Mother Of A Dog has a bridge (or whatever it is called right efter the verse) with a distorted guitar. That sound combination is outstanding and the only one similar to some U/W creation. Even though it´s very short it makes the whole track to No. 1 on the album for me.
There is some similar, less developed sound in Witness accompanying the female spoken words... but that´s it.
The intro in Strip It Down is also interseting but it´s fading very fast.
To Us All is sweet like Lousiana. I have some ideas for a verse before the vocals but it´s just for fun so I will most probably keep it for myself :D
potatobroth
05-02-2014, 02:24 PM
After listening to the samples on iTunes, the only two tracks I'm interested in hearing more of are To Us All and Mother of a Dog.
Lx_Nen
05-02-2014, 04:57 PM
2 great musical geniuses have somehow combined to totally neutralise each other. Some albums have that one boring track that you skip, that should just have been a b-side with something better on the a... this album has 9 of those.
The packaging of the 2CD version is really nice, and that's about all I can say about it.
I've filed it on a CD shelf. I can't really see me ever picking it up again.
You know, I think that was exactly their intention.
It sounds like they made it for themselves and their friends just for fun. So why take it so seriously?
Hmm theres a difference between having fun and releasing a commercial album. If they are having fun, then it should be a free download. Fans have an expectation, and sadly they have missed the mark in this case.
purlieu
05-03-2014, 08:44 AM
Well, I suppose somebody has to, so I'll chime in with positive remarks - I absolutely love this. The melodies are quite simple and poppy, but also big and pretty, which I like. The whole thing makes me smile and has a great energy to it. Edgeland meets early Eno pop stuff meets Eno/Byrne Afrobeat inspired stuff, all things I really like.
jetpig
05-03-2014, 04:55 PM
Of what I've heard so far, it's OK. It's not my typical fare, and doesn't really ring me particularly, but I've certainly heard worse. It will definitely be in my collection, but I don't see myself returning too terribly often, espescially with all the other choices they've each provided me over the years. I don't think it's either party's best work, but I'd be remiss to say it's out and out awful. It's a nice glimpse into where Karl's head is these days, though.
Andrea
05-04-2014, 04:37 AM
Yes, it´s interesting to hear the typical Karl Hyde sound and essence. I even hear some similarities to Edgeland here and there. More difficult to hear Eno´s contribution, except his vocals of course, but I don´t know his work so well.
Guys, could you please tell me which track/which part is afrobeat? Just so I understand what that means. Many thanks.
Hmm theres a difference between having fun and releasing a commercial album. If they are having fun, then it should be a free download. Fans have an expectation, and sadly they have missed the mark in this case.
Maybe they just want new fans or most likely fans of their work and not of some specific music genre. But it´s only my guess.
stimpee
05-04-2014, 08:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z266fEx7LAo
Eno • Hyde - Someday World studio film
This film was shot in Brian Eno's studio during the second day of rehearsals to explore the potential of Someday World songs in the live setting. It features performance excerpts of the single 'Daddy's Car' and album track 'When I Built This World'.
Film Credits:
Band:
Keyboards/vocals: Brian Eno
Guitar/Vocals: Karl Hyde
Keyboards/vocals: Fred Gibson
Guitar: Leo Abrahams
Guitar: Justin Adams
Bass: Abi Bailey
Drums: Chris Vatalaro
Percussion: Emmanuel Adelabu
Keyboards vocals: Don E
Crew:
Editing and Additional Sound Design: Adam Saewitz
Sound: Martin Harrison
Programming: Peter Chilvers
Band Production Manager: Andy James
Director of Photography: Conall Freeley
Camera: Sophie Ziegler, Elizabeth Kinder, Russell Weekes
testudo
05-05-2014, 08:02 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned but they are playing a Maida Vale session
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b042rcqs
marcolphus
05-06-2014, 11:33 PM
I like this album. It's so 80s... Most vocals are really good, and some parts reminds me of Underworld (Witness, When I Built This World). Daddy's Car is really brilliant, especially bass line... I like it.
It's better than 'Barking' (worst UW album IMHO) and far much better than 'Edgeland' (which I don't like at all).
jetpig
05-08-2014, 09:43 PM
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/05/album-review-eno-%C2%B7-hyde-someday-world/
Generally echoes a lot of the feelings around here. A lot of stuff that could have been better.
dubnobasswithme
05-09-2014, 09:53 PM
Still trying to decide what I think about the album, but I can confidently say that I really like the double gatefold packaging for the LP version. It's going to look cool framed on the wall :)
Andrea
05-10-2014, 04:50 AM
If you have any doubts you should listen to the BBC 6 recording a couple of times, suddenly the CD version turns out to be massive.
It´s like magic, like lowering the world record and start from scratch without doping. :D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01ynbfx
Interesting is that Sony is doing it the other way around with MJ´s new album.
As I understand this is the original recording of A Place Without No Name:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x180rz4_a-place-without-no-name_music
Yet the Timberlake version of Love Never Felt So Good is more developed.
Now it definitely feels like Earthvision Song Contest :D:D:D
TheBang
05-10-2014, 05:06 AM
I kind of like the tweaks they did to Daddy's Car live.
Andrea
05-11-2014, 04:12 AM
Unique indeed
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/l/t1.0-9/10277516_465897536847338_3772446824702299076_n.jpg
lloyd
05-13-2014, 03:20 PM
Jools Holland show right now
http://www.stream2watch.me/live-tv/bbc-2-live-stream
(prolly popup hell)
khouri
05-13-2014, 04:40 PM
Really quite bad, I think. Seems very obviously cobbled together from leftover bits they both had lying around and lyrics that sound like they were written and sung within the same 20 minute period without any further consideration. There's a few cool noises and rhythms here and there but they're quickly molested or otherwise underdeveloped.
The BBC interview suggested that Eno and Karl went out of their way to make the album as unmusical as possible while still retaining some semblance of a pop structure. Well, most people call those 'bad songs.'
I love both of these artists but I think left to their own devices, they're probably too... I hesitate to use the word pretentious, but it's hard not to after hearing how weirdly they manipulated the creative process was... but yeah, too pretentious for their own good. Eno needs strong collaborators with strong points of view to focus his enormous talents and I think after Edgeland and Someday World, we can say the same about Karl too.
Earlier in the thread someone said two musical geniuses collided to cancel each other out and I agree completely. They really seem to have brought out only the worst qualities in each other, and it's disheartening to hear them talk about how thrilled they both are with the experience and the results. This album is meandering, noodly, cloying and at times actually dissonant, and not in the good way.
I mean, god bless them, this is their life and their work and they can do what they like, but it's definitely not the sort of thing I'm interested in hearing more of.
qirex
05-14-2014, 08:58 AM
Really quite bad, I think. Seems very obviously cobbled together from leftover bits they both had lying around and lyrics that sound like they were written and sung within the same 20 minute period without any further consideration. There's a few cool noises and rhythms here and there but they're quickly molested or otherwise underdeveloped.
The BBC interview suggested that Eno and Karl went out of their way to make the album as unmusical as possible while still retaining some semblance of a pop structure. Well, most people call those 'bad songs.'
I love both of these artists but I think left to their own devices, they're probably too... I hesitate to use the word pretentious, but it's hard not to after hearing how weirdly they manipulated the creative process was... but yeah, too pretentious for their own good. Eno needs strong collaborators with strong points of view to focus his enormous talents and I think after Edgeland and Someday World, we can say the same about Karl too.
Earlier in the thread someone said two musical geniuses collided to cancel each other out and I agree completely. They really seem to have brought out only the worst qualities in each other, and it's disheartening to hear them talk about how thrilled they both are with the experience and the results. This album is meandering, noodly, cloying and at times actually dissonant, and not in the good way.
I mean, god bless them, this is their life and their work and they can do what they like, but it's definitely not the sort of thing I'm interested in hearing more of.
I couldn't put my finger on why I can't get into these solo projects but this was right on point and beautifully stated.
jetpig
05-14-2014, 11:38 AM
While I rather dig edgelands, I miss hearing ricky... Speaking of, did anyone watch babylon beyond the pilot?
TheBang
05-14-2014, 05:23 PM
Speaking of, did anyone watch babylon beyond the pilot?
The rest of the series has not aired yet.
lloyd
05-15-2014, 01:00 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2014/05/sundancetv-danny-boyle-babylon-uk-series/
Fall 2014 for UKs Channel 4
2015 on Sundance
kagenaki koe
05-19-2014, 08:05 PM
so, anybody else receive two mailings of their order? Received a second about a week after receiving Someday World, except it was only an empty mailer. it's like they wasted postage just to send me a piece of cardboard:p (unless there was something else they were supposed to be sending)
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