UW should reissue all the previous albums in the same format as the Barking box

[stimpee]

Latest topic from the skype Dirtychat:

Welcome to Dirtychat: Andy Khouri says: UW should reissue all the previous albums in the same format as the Barking box

Discuss. (i'm in agreement btw - Would look nice next to each other on the shelf...)

[lowbit]

That would be great, but IMHO there are quite a number of items well ahead of it in the "things I'd love to see Underworld do" queue.

[negative1]

well yeah, it would be cool..

but only if they include an extra disc with
demo's, unreleased tracks and other mixes..
(not previously released ones)..

they would be pretty expensive though, and
i'm sure people would digital versions of course
as an alternative..

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[ultradave]

well yeah, it would be cool..

but only if they include an extra disc with
demo's, unreleased tracks and other mixes..


We are living in an era of re-releases. I would purchase them as a collector, and I totally agree they should include an extra disc with remixes, demos, non-releases items and even some DVD content. That would be cool.

[joethelion]

I think this would work with pretty much all of UW's albums...

except for Dubno (even though it probably deserves it the most).

I mean - if you think about it, there are SO MANY bsides and whatnot that you'd take up like... 5 discs (b/c of the two "Dark Train" EPs, Born Slippy, Dirty Epic/Cowgirl EP, Mmm Skyscraper single, Lemon Interrupt, ME/The Hump - plus another disc for the music videos). Oh, and "Why Why Why" & Spikee/Dogman Go Woof

And that's just for released material (not including the dubno demo cassette)

you'd pretty much have to 'disappoint the fans' to some degree.

But - STITI would be a great candidate... fewer bsides and fewer (known) outtakes. Give people a good remastering, nice package, a few videos, etc and it'd make everyone happy

[King of Snake]

damn, Dubno/Stiti and even BF in those big box formats (with expanded artwork booklets of course) would look awesome. I'm not holding my breath though...

[negative1]

alright,

now this is just a TEST RENDER.. ITS NOT REAL!!!
and yeah, the graphics could be better.. the box needs to
be bigger, etc, etc...

but how about something like this for second toughest...
2 cd + dvd
=========================
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/213/secondboxs.jpg

and the 2 x cd
-------------------------http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/779/second2cds.jpg
and the dvd

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8325/seconddvds.jpg

alright, someone make them now!

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[TheBang]

Wow, -1, way to make me really sad that something's not real.

[negative1]

Wow, -1, way to make me really sad that something's not real.

you might not want to look at the other renders
for 'dubnobasswithmyheadman' or 'beaucoup fish' then!

oh well ! who knows what will come out in the future..

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[negative1]

well, maybe this should be a 3xcd+DVD set..

1 studio release (remastered)
2 prototype version tracks + other unreleased tracks
3 remixes and b-sides

4 dvd of videos / live performances

again, the box should be bigger,
the labels should be a little clearer, etc...
-----------------------------------------------
boxset+cd1
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/401/dubnoboxcd.jpg

cdx3+dvd
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3062/dubno3cddvd.jpg

dvd
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9158/dubnodvds.jpg

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[negative1]

and one last one ...

beacoup fish 2xcd + dvd
-------------------------------------
boxset+cd
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9932/beauboxcd.jpg


2xcd

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4584/beau2cds.jpg

dvd
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8927/beaudvds.jpg

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[TheBang]

You're killing me, -1.

What, no AHDO?

[negative1]

You're killing me, -1.

What, no AHDO?

what? you want a boxset for that also?????

might as well... but then what about everything, everything?
or 1992-2002 (well, there was that 4LP box)... and
oblivion with bells?....

ok, i'll make one more.. and then we can all
be miserable..

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[negative1]

ok thebang,
here you go...

one last (last?) boxset..

box+cd
---------------------------------------
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/193/onehundredboxsetcd.jpg

2 cds
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7221/onehundred2cds.jpg

dvd
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2357/onehundreddvds.jpg

THERE! now we can all be unhappy for now.. awww...


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[lowbit]

Okay, if AHDO is added in I may have to retract my earlier statement about this being lower in the queue. Nice going, -1. ;D

[joethelion]

you know... I was listening to AHDO the other day, and it was MUCH better than I remembered.

Although - I should clarify, the playlist also had all the bsides (and 020202) - so it was more than just the plain album.

but yea - way to go -1, now I really want these box sets
which we'll never get


or at least not for several more years
maybe by dubno's 20th anniversary? - it's only like ...two years away right?


...and now I feel old

[negative1]

but yea - way to go -1, now I really want these box sets
which we'll never get

or at least not for several more years
maybe by dubno's 20th anniversary? - it's only like ...two years away right?

...and now I feel old

you're welcome.. ha ha..

anyways, dubno came out in 1993/94 - most places,
so that would make the 20th in 2013/2014...


although elements of it came out in 1993 (mmm. skyscraper)..
and non-album tracks rez, spikee, spoonman, dogman go woof etc..

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[Dirty0900]

Wouldn't there be issues regarding Darren Emersons involvement? Seeing there was such a long wait on issues with Sunshine, I'd doubt this would happen quickly.

[bryantm3]

oh jeez. reissues. the plague of the earth.
reissues are only okay with me if:

-they are only remasters, not 'remixes' (i don't mean like wikky-wikky-wak, i mean taking the master tapes and 'rebalancing' all the instruments, surround sound mixes, etc.)

-they are offered on vinyl. CDs are going out more quickly than i would've expected. the formula for success nowadays is vinyl plus mp3.

-if they use my version of cowgirl on dubno (same intro as the album, but with the longer ending from the single).

[purlieu]

the formula for success nowadays is vinyl plus mp3.
'Cept for people with no record player who want a physical version of the album, of course.

[negative1]

oh jeez. reissues. the plague of the earth.
reissues are only okay with me if:

-they are offered on vinyl. CDs are going out more quickly than i would've expected. the formula for success nowadays is vinyl plus mp3.


back in 2003, dubnobasswithmyheadman, and second toughest
were re-issued on vinyl in the UK.. they were half-speed masters
on heavy vinyl...

the other albums are farily recent, and pretty easy to find..

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[TheBang]

Wouldn't there be issues regarding Darren Emersons involvement? Seeing there was such a long wait on issues with Sunshine, I'd doubt this would happen quickly.
Sunshine was an entirely different set of circumstances. These albums shouldn't be a problem. Darren gets his residuals. I believe UW own the rights proper to all the albums, seeing as they reissued them all on iTunes the other year. So that would actually make it much easier to do these reissues, if they wanted.

[ultradave]

I think Tomato should import -1 to do the artwork for these boxes!!! :D

well, maybe this should be a 3xcd+DVD set..

1 studio release (remastered)
2 prototype version tracks + other unreleased tracks
3 remixes and b-sides

4 dvd of videos / live performances

again, the box should be bigger,
the labels should be a little clearer, etc...
-----------------------------------------------
boxset+cd1
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/401/dubnoboxcd.jpg

cdx3+dvd
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3062/dubno3cddvd.jpg

dvd
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9158/dubnodvds.jpg

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[Dirty Saint]

oh jeez. reissues. the plague of the earth.
reissues are only okay with me if:

-they are only remasters, not 'remixes' (i don't mean like wikky-wikky-wak, i mean taking the master tapes and 'rebalancing' all the instruments, surround sound mixes, etc.)



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[negative1]

bryantm3][/B]
oh jeez. reissues. the plague of the earth.
reissues are only okay with me if:

-they are only remasters, not 'remixes' (i don't mean like wikky-wikky-wak, i mean taking the master tapes and 'rebalancing' all the instruments, surround sound mixes, etc.)

plus 1

i'm not sure i would want surround sound mixes, although they
would be cool to listen to... how many people actually do?

i think depeche mode and talking heads have tried it with
mixed results..

and wouldn't rebalancing the instruments make it sound like a remix?

i'm not sure where you draw the line.. that would be up the
sound engineer i think..

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[Cowslanlr]

Underworld should definitely reissue all there CDs. I don't particularly care if they are deluxe box sets although, that would be sweet. I would just like to see them re-released so that I would be able to walk into a store and find their albums. I do not particularly care for mp3 downloads. Don't get me wrong, I like mp3s but, I like to own a physical disc as well. With the majority of Underworlds albums being out of print, it makes it very difficult to get their CDs at a reasonable price. I would particularly like to be able to get a copy of "dubnobasswithmyheadman" with the bonus tracks "Rez/Why, Why, Why," but at the moment I would have to shell out a ton of cash if I could even find it for sale.

[BrotherLovesDub]

2 years ago it was quite easy to get the 2cd Dubno for under 20 bucks via HMV.CO.JP. You just had to want it 2 years ago. None of their albums are hard to find. I can get all of them for under 10 bucks here in town. Where do you live?

[Cowslanlr]

I live in Poughkeepsie, NY. The only album I have ever seen in the stores in this area is Barking; and I have been keeping an eye out for years.

[lowbit]

Wow, I had no idea most of the albums were out-of-print. :(

Downloads may be the wave of the future, but there will be a solid market for physical releases for years yet, particularly physical releases that include well-crafted packaging and bonus material.

[froopy seal]

A quick search reveals that there are loads of used UW albums as CD up on eBay. Buy Now, under 10 bucks:

dubno (http://cgi.ebay.de/Underworld-Dubnobasswithmyheadman-Audio-CD-/310271554031?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item483da031ef) dubno (http://cgi.ebay.de/UNDERWORLD-DUBNOBASSWITHMYHEADMAN-CD-BOYS-OWN-/120656034736?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL&hash=item1c17a8fbb0)
STITI2CD (http://cgi.ebay.de/Underworld-Second-Toughest-the-Infants-2-CDs-/320621279876?pt=B%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs&hash=item4aa6847a84) STITI2CD (http://cgi.ebay.de/Underworld-Second-Toughest-The-Infants-2CD-NM-/300501729591?pt=B%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs&hash=item45f74c8137)
BF (http://cgi.ebay.de/Underworld-BEAUCOUP-FISH-Rare-CD-CHEAP-SHIP-/370420011012?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item563ec0d004) BF (http://cgi.ebay.de/the-UNDERWORLD-CD-BEAUCOUP-FISH-techno-dance-COMPLETE-/350377430731?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item51941f4ecb)
AHDO (http://cgi.ebay.de/MUSIC-CD-UNDERWORLD-A-HUNDRED-DAYS-OFF-/300481224313?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item45f6139e79) AHDO (R&B :) ) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Underworld-A-Hundred-Days-Off-CD-R-B-Dance-V2-VG-VG-/300470764793?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item45f57404f9)
OWB (http://cgi.ebay.de/Underworld-Oblivion-With-Bells-CD-Mint-/300355853585?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item45ee9a9d11) OWB (CD+DVD for $13) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Oblivion-with-Bells-CD-DVD-by-Underworld-CD-Oc-/220707977713?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item33633879f1)

[crank]

I live in Poughkeepsie, NY. The only album I have ever seen in the stores in this area is Barking; and I have been keeping an eye out for years.

There's this little town south of you- it's called New York City
there may be a place there to get it... :) ;):rolleyes:

[stimpee]

Nice boxes there Raj (http://www.3d-pack.com/ ?)

I was more trying to get people to talk about the contents though. There is still a 74min limit on audio CDs sold (even tho 80mins seems to be "standard") so it would be tough to fit all of it on 3 CDs for some of the albums.

I say cram on as much as possible.

[negative1]

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Nice boxes there Raj (http://www.3d-pack.com/ ?)

I was more trying to get people to talk about the contents though. There is still a 74min limit on audio CDs sold (even tho 80mins seems to be "standard") so it would be tough to fit all of it on 3 CDs for some of the albums.

I say cram on as much as possible.

actually, there is some software, quick 3d cover:
------------------------
http://www.nervepreserve.com/quick3dcover/

i have no idea what the content would be?
there's too many unknown tracks... if they
include just the vinyl only stuff, and the out of print
material.. that would be enough for most people..

however, they have too much unreleased material..

look at the re-releases by:
-------------------------------------
pet shop boys - 2cd's <- good, but not enough content
808 state <- a lot, but not all content
the cure <- most content is there
depeche mode <- missing a lot of tracks
bjork <- missing a lot of tracks
duran duran <-good, but still missing a lot
thomas dolby <-good, but still missing a lot
simple minds <- no extra content
new order <- missing a lot of content , first run was poor quality
echo and the bunnymen <-good content
thompson twins <-good content, missing a few things
heaven 17 <- good, but missing a lot
blancmange <-good, but still missing a lot
abc <- good, but missing a lot
blondie <- good, but missing a lot
ultravox <- good, but still missing tracks

etc..

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[Dirty Saint]

depeche mode <- missing a lot of tracks


What tracks were missing ? - was under the impression that DM covered near everything in the reissues

[negative1]

What tracks were missing ? - was under the impression that DM covered near everything in the reissues

i'm sure i could go on for awhile, but there's a lot of
edits, unreleased dj mixes, and promos that are
vinyl only, cd promo only, and dj only that were
never issued (especially from the latter years)...
ok, most of the earlier stuff is there..

but there's still missing tracks... unreleased demos,
live appearances, videos etc..
(WHERE'S the 'get the balance right' video?)

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[stimpee]

http://www.bigscreensatellite.com/tracklistings.htm might be a help

[negative1]

http://www.bigscreensatellite.com/tracklistings.htm might be a help

yeah, as far as underworld goes,
there's a lot..

but getting the licensing would be tricky..
especially for the remixes they've done
for others..

and all the work on other labels..

for theirr own private stuff, it might be easier..
but deciding which tracks to choose from would
also be hard to do..


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[stimpee]

yeah, as far as underworld goes,there's a lot..

but getting the licensing would be tricky..especially for the remixes they've done for others..

and all the work on other labels..

for theirr own private stuff, it might be easier.. but deciding which tracks to choose from would also be hard to do..

later
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[Champiness]

I thought I had read in an interview once that they were "lucky enough to have the rights to all their material from day one". Unless I'm wrong about that, or something's changed in the interim, that would only leave their remixes for other people, right?

[negative1]

i should expand the ahdo boxset
by one more cd to include the
prototype version.

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[stimpee]

Raj / -1

I think you did make some tracklistings but if we are gonna do 2CD (3CD?) for each album reissue then what goes on it?

[negative1]

Raj / -1

I think you did make some tracklistings but if we are gonna do 2CD (3CD?) for each album reissue then what goes on it?

long time since i messed around with music.

i'll have to dig up or revamp them,
and make a new listing..

would be nice to have 1 dvd with a ton of
music on it.
bt's doing that with a limited boxset for his last
album.. i'm impressed:
--
http://btmusic.com/images/stories/TheseReImaginedMachines/thesereimaginedmachines_sneak0.jpg

http://btmusic.com/releases/these-re-imagined-machines/323-these-re-imagined-machines-complete-limited-edition-signed-box-set.html

costs a lot, but worth it to fans..

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[Champiness]

i should expand the ahdo boxset
by one more cd to include the
prototype version.

later
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That'd be a rather redundant "bonus disc", no? Especially considering a number of tracks are exactly the same as in the final version.

[negative1]

That'd be a rather redundant "bonus disc", no? Especially considering a number of tracks are exactly the same as in the final version.

there might be a difference in the mastering..
i'm not sure.. but also the dubnobasswithmyheadman
prototype version had overlaps also...

probably best to replace them with live tracks,
b-sides and remixes..

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[negative1]

well, maybe this should be a 3xcd+DVD set..

1 studio release (remastered)
2 prototype version tracks + other unreleased tracks
3 remixes and b-sides

4 dvd of videos / live performances

again, the box should be bigger,
the labels should be a little clearer, etc...
-----------------------------------------------
boxset+cd1
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/401/dubnoboxcd.jpg

cdx3+dvd
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3062/dubno3cddvd.jpg

dvd
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9158/dubnodvds.jpg

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working on an expanded version of this,
i will post a tracklisting in a separate thread.

part 1: album restored from vinyl
part 2: promo DAT
part 3 : remixes and edits
part 4 : b-sides and edits
part 5 : live tracks and early work
part 6 : DVD

i'm still picking the tracklistings for parts 5 and 6.

however, beside part 6.

this will be a virtual set, as parts 3,4,5 will not
be able to fit on 1 cd.

as i mentioned previously, it would be possible
to put parts 1-5 on 2 other DVD's, with audio only.

i haven't calculated it completely, but it will be longer than
6 hours total.

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[negative1]

underworld remasters
--------------------

intro
--------
if there were remasters for each of the
albums. it would be nice to have extended
material for each of the albums.

i have split as much material available for each
album, only including released material
from singles, the web, and radio sources.

their critical era
-------------------
for the first 3 main albums, we also
have some promo material, and with
dubnobasswithmyheadman, an early
DAT with some extra tracks.

sources
-------
underworld also released several tracks
via their website, including outtakes,
alternate versions, remixes, and live tracks.

this provides a wealth of tracks, not including
the several soundboard sources for their concerts.
some of the tracks from everything, everything
were used as audio only references.

finally, videos for several of the songs were
included for completeness.

i hope this will eventually become realized
or explored by the label.

in the meantime, we can conjecture for ourself
what tracks would be considered for inclusion.


1 dubnobasswithmyheadman deluxe
================================================
75min part 1: album restored from vinyl
80min part 2: promo DAT
120min part 3: remixes and edits
mother earth, mmm skyscraper, dark and long,
cowgirl, dirty epic
------------------------------------------------
80min part 4: b-sides, non-album, and edits
hump, rez, why why why, spikee, dogman go woof
------------------------------------------------
90min part 5: b-sides, non-album, and edits
most ospitable,215 miles, thing in a book,
spoon deep, burts
------------------------------------------------
150min part 6: live tracks and early work
mother earth, alabaster white thing, big meat show,
lemonworld tracks, live album tracks,
web live - belfort, fuji, werchter 96
------------------------------------------------
600min = 10hr

60min part 7: videos
promos, live(?)
===============================================


2 second toughest in the infants deluxe
================================================
70min part 1: album restored from vinyl
60min part 2: remixes and edits
rowla, pearls girl, banstyle, juanita
------------------------------------------------
90min part 3: b-sides non-album and edits
born slippy, puppies, oich oich, cherry pie,
mosaic, deep arch, born slippy remixes
------------------------------------------------
130min part 4: live and web
lemonworld - air towel,stagger,oich oich,mama nuxx
live album tracks, everything everything
------------------------------------------------
130min part 5: web releases, live
pearls girl(blue mountain), werchter, belfort, fuji
------------------------------------------------
480min = 8hr

30min part 6: videos
promos, live(?)
===============================================


3 beaucoup fish deluxe
================================================
70min part 1: album restored from vinyl
140min part 2: remixes and edits, b-sides
moaner, king of snake, remixes, italian
------------------------------------------------
60min part 3: remixes and edits, b-sides
push upstairs, remixes
------------------------------------------------
80min part 4: b-sides, non-album, edits
jumbo, remixes, bruce lee
------------------------------------------------
150min part 5: radio and web mixes
xfm excerpts, lemonworld, blue mountain
------------------------------------------------
120min part 6: web and live tracks
belfort, fuji, everything everything
-----------------------------------------------------
620min = 10hr20min

30min part 7: videos
promos, live(?)
===============================================

overall totals:
------------------
audio: 10+8+10hr = 28hours

video: 60+20+30min = 2hrs
===================


i will post more detailed tracklists when
the time comes.

i have assembled all the audio tracks, and
am currently reviewing a few live tracks,
and finding live source videos.

should be interesting once we get around
to previewing the tracks.

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[negative1]

will be returning to this project shortly.

will be starting with : dubnobasswithmyheadman Deluxe
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1 dubnobasswithmyheadman deluxe
================================================
75min part 1: album restored from vinyl
80min part 2: promo DAT
120min part 3: remixes and edits
mother earth, mmm skyscraper, dark and long,
cowgirl, dirty epic
------------------------------------------------
80min part 4: b-sides, non-album, and edits
hump, rez, why why why, spikee, dogman go woof
------------------------------------------------
90min part 5: b-sides, non-album, and edits
most ospitable,215 miles, thing in a book,
spoon deep, burts
------------------------------------------------
150min part 6: live tracks and early work
mother earth, alabaster white thing, big meat show,
lemonworld tracks, live album tracks,
web live - belfort, fuji, werchter 96
------------------------------------------------
600min = 10hr

60min part 7: videos
promos, live(?)
===============================================


should be fun.

lots of cool tracks to explore.

also will be adding a part 7: DVD
with videos of various songs, if possible.
mostly promos, and some live tracks through
the years.

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[negative1]

here is some early artwork for the 3 albums:
================================
dubno deluxe
----------------------
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1723/4fj4.jpg

second toughest deluxe
--------------------------------------
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3758/niwy.jpg

second toughest deluxe (alternate)
--------------------------------------------------
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7162/6e8l.jpg


beaucoup fish deluxe
--------------------------------
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/2637/6hhw.jpg

i am slightly altering the format for them,

here is the outline for dubno:
==================================

dubnobasswithmyheadman deluxe v0.2
----------------------------------
1 album remastered from vinyl
2 dubnoDat promo
3 remixes
4 b-sides and edits, non-album tracks
5 live tracks
- tracks from uw.com
- various single tracks
- partial gigs
6 DVD videos
- promos
- live
==============
time = 12hr15min
tracks = 86


video
-------
time = 1hr50min
tracks = 17

please visit the dedicated thread for more details.

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[negative1]

i have just published an instructable
on what these boxsets may look like:
===========================
http://www.instructables.com/id/how-to-make-a-music-boxset-12x12/

http://cdn.instructables.com/F0P/M3S9/HTUFBGMY/F0PM3S9HTUFBGMY.MEDIUM.jpg

check it out.

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