2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka

[potatobroth]

These next few nights will be very telling. Three nights in Osaka back to back to back. I'll be pretty bummed if they all read: "1. Downpipe, 2. ALAF, etc."

[darktrain]

These next few nights will be very telling. Three nights in Osaka back to back to back. I'll be pretty bummed if they all read: "1. Downpipe, 2. ALAF, etc."

Don't know how accurate this is, but via:
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/underworld/2010/zepp-osaka-osaka-japan-3bd52838.html



Downpipe
Always Loved a Film
Nu Train
Two Months Off
Scribble
Bird 1
Rez/Cowgirl
Between Stars
Diamond Jigsaw
King of Snake
Born Slippy Nuxx
Dirty Epic
Moaner

[potatobroth]

That's EXACTLY the same as the Kentish Town Forum show with Dirty Epic in place of Pearl's Girl.

I'll be avoiding these bootlegs until after the NYC show, that's for damn sure!

[Dirty0900]

Don't know how accurate this is, but via:
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/underworld/2010/zepp-osaka-osaka-japan-3bd52838.html



Downpipe
Always Loved a Film
Nu Train
Two Months Off
Scribble
Bird 1
Rez/Cowgirl
Between Stars
Diamond Jigsaw
King of Snake
Born Slippy Nuxx
Dirty Epic
Moaner


Dirty Epic in the set would be worth it for me.

[bas_I_am]

Crap... same set list (albeit rearranged) as vegas

[stimpee]

I feel sorry for any unsuspecting fan who's bought tickets for all 3 nights.

[potatobroth]

yep. starty/stoppy. exact same set list. methinks this will not go down as the golden age of live UW shows. ;)

makes me even happier that i caught them in Atlanta in 08.

[tokyorai]

It's only one night in Osaka. Tonight and tomorrow night is Zepp Tokyo. The last one is Ageha which is a smaller, separate venue from Zepp. I am attending that one.
But yes, that set list is correct.

Anyone going to the Ageha show??? :)

[jose m]

I feel sorry for any unsuspecting fan who's bought tickets for all 3 nights.



yer....the band should try harder for the 4 members of the audience that might have done that.

[potatobroth]

yer....the band should try harder for the 4 members of the audience that might have done that.


really? I bet a lot of people bought tix to multiple shows.

[tokyorai]

Found a site with the set lists for the shows here...looks like tonight's encore had Pearl's Girl instead of Dirty Epic. Both good songs though! :D

http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/news.html

I thinks big fans of UW can enjoy the show even if the set list was 100% the same. I know I would but I was only able to get tickets to Sunday's show.

[potatobroth]

Found a site with the set lists for the shows here...looks like tonight's encore had Pearl's Girl instead of Dirty Epic. Both good songs though! :D

http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/news.html

I thinks big fans of UW can enjoy the show even if the set list was 100% the same. I know I would but I was only able to get tickets to Sunday's show.

I certainly wouldn't enjoy the show as much as I would if they were random setlists and I'm a big fan of Underworld. Part of the allure of their live shows was having literally no idea what was coming next. It was a fantastic live experience. Many of us have seen them 10+ times and outside of a festival setting, I don't think any of those shows were clones of a previous one.

I went to back to back shows in 2 different cities once, and 3 or 4 songs were repeated. Thats it. The rest were completely random.

The LiveHereNow shows are all pretty unique without sacrificing heavy hitters or alienating new listeners.

Fact is, this new tour of 13 songs contains 6 from the new album, is starty/stoppy, and in the exact same order. Will I enjoy the show? Probably. But I sure as shit won't be surprised nor will it rank up there with the best of them. End of an era? Blip in the road?

And to be honest, I'm more concerned with the start/stop nature of the show as the improves and bridges used to be such awesome moments. The subtle clues about what was coming next will be missed.

[jose m]

really? I bet a lot of people bought tix to multiple shows.

i'm not so sure.
you could get that impression here but amongst the "normal" fans i dunno.

[bazwint]

End of an era? Blip in the road?.

I wonder. I thought the static setlist would be ditched when the boys started to do their own shows but obviously not. They're still the dogs' live but I already find myself longing for the Barking era to end.

[jose m]

I wonder. I thought the static setlist would be ditched when the boys started to do their own shows but obviously not. They're still the dogs' live but I already find myself longing for the Barking era to end.


guys....there just aren't enough fans around these days that share your views imo (check out facebook and gig reviews for a positive view or for an alternative, the amount of us that get involved on here ! )
i get the feeling that this is an end of the road in someway though, maybe those seated theatre shows are the next development, a "dubnobass/2nd toughest" tour like the primals upcoming "screamadelica" tour or "an intimate evening with smith & hyde" with live painting,poetry and fizzy pop ?????
in the meantime,why not stop checking out the setlists and then any show you see you'll still have the surprise you want? ;)

[potatobroth]

i'm not so sure.
you could get that impression here but amongst the "normal" fans i dunno.

True. I'm just basing this on people I know that are both super fans and so-so fans. If UW played back to back in NYC, I know a whole bunch from both categories that would go to both shows.

[potatobroth]

guys....there just aren't enough fans around these days that share your views imo (check out facebook and gig reviews for a positive view or for an alternative, the amount of us that get involved on here ! )
i get the feeling that this is an end of the road in someway though, maybe those seated theatre shows are the next development, a "dubnobass/2nd toughest" tour like the primals upcoming "screamadelica" tour or "an intimate evening with smith & hyde" with live painting,poetry and fizzy pop ?????
in the meantime,why not stop checking out the setlists and then any show you see you'll still have the surprise you want? ;)

All my opinions are from a superfan pov. All my concerns are thus, from this pov. :)

I would LOVE to have UW bill the first show of a 2-night set as 'only ambient songs' or 'only bsides' or whatever. I'd be in heaven.

Now, They Might Be Giants (weird comparisson but go with me) announce the format for each show they are going to do. Living near NYC, ive seen them live dozens of times and not a single show has been the same. Not remotely. They play small venues, play gigs in clusters (like last saturday of each week for the entire month), and do the following:

Sat 1: Entire Album X, + some random songs
Sat 2: No repeats at all between Sat 2 and Sat 3
Sat 3: No repeats at all between Sat 2 and Sat 3
Sat 4: Two part show, first half just the two founders and a beatbox, second part full band.

The point being, they aim smaller, and offer a huge variety. They get multiple attendees because the show is always different. When there arent enough fans, aim smaller and more intimate. Give reasons to get the remaining fans to go more often.

I loved that Underworld shows were always different. Its why i started collecting their bootlegs.

[Mike]

It wouldn't pay the bills.

[stimpee]

guys....there just aren't enough fans around these days that share your views imo ---snip--- in the meantime,why not stop checking out the setlists and then any show you see you'll still have the surprise you want? ;)Too late, we already know the setlist because it was played WAY BACK on the 12th June and hasnt changed since. If this tour was sold as Live Here Now theres no way anyone would buy more than the gig they were at. I know its easier to do the same setlist 20+ times in a row (ask Orbital). But at the expense of pissing off the existing fans who might do more than 1 gig per tour. As an example, UW are playing London 3 times in 4 months. Are they going to play the same setlist for all 3 gigs? If this is gonna be how this tour is then maybe the fans here should only see one gig and give the rest of the tour a miss and hope that the next one is different. If this tour is there to attract new fans, then I hope it works, but for me who usually sees Underworld upto 6 times per tour its a kick in the teeth (yes, i know im certainly not normal in doing that, thats why im such an Underworld freak). I get it that the majority of people see UW once per tour and theyre very happy. But thats not us. So we are here bitching. Sorry about that.

And I hope UW arent at the point of touring previous albums whole (yet). Its nice but they have so much more to give. I'm still hoping for a change in the setlist for the US/EU shows, even if the new tracks are played in the same order first, and then the boys mix it up for the second half.

[jose m]

It wouldn't pay the bills.


i think there's a lot of truth in this.

[jose m]

All my opinions are from a superfan pov. All my concerns are thus, from this pov. :)

I would LOVE to have UW bill the first show of a 2-night set as 'only ambient songs' or 'only bsides' or whatever. I'd be in heaven.

Now, They Might Be Giants (weird comparisson but go with me) announce the format for each show they are going to do. Living near NYC, ive seen them live dozens of times and not a single show has been the same. Not remotely. They play small venues, play gigs in clusters (like last saturday of each week for the entire month), and do the following:

Sat 1: Entire Album X, + some random songs
Sat 2: No repeats at all between Sat 2 and Sat 3
Sat 3: No repeats at all between Sat 2 and Sat 3
Sat 4: Two part show, first half just the two founders and a beatbox, second part full band.

The point being, they aim smaller, and offer a huge variety. They get multiple attendees because the show is always different. When there arent enough fans, aim smaller and more intimate. Give reasons to get the remaining fans to go more often.

I loved that Underworld shows were always different. Its why i started collecting their bootlegs.


no harm in wishing.
as you say its what you think would be a good idea but clearly its not what rick and karl wanna do.
they like to travel in style,nice hotels,a full crew and a production and as bigger crowd as possible and why not?
they're getting on age-wise,they work loads,they travel all the time,they have to be away from family and friends and have all the usual baggage of life that people in their middle age have.........give 'em a break ! ;)

[unwound floors]

I wonder. I thought the static setlist would be ditched when the boys started to do their own shows but obviously not. They're still the dogs' live but I already find myself longing for the Barking era to end.

Concur. Their show here in Melbourne, Australia in June was the very first Underworld gig I've been to, and fuck me, it was honestly one of the most incredible experiences of my life - but it's a little disappointing, knowing they're just doing this setlist over and over again. Especially in light of the sort of incredible shows they're well-known for doing.

Whatever. They're still my favourites. <3