LovelyBrokenThing: Break into tracks?

[verbal]

Do you plan on editing LovelyBrokenThing into tracks or are you keeping it whole?

Maybe this isn't worth of a poll but oh well.

[stimpee]

hah yes actually. though its not really what I would call a pain to fast forward, i dont always want to listen to the first track every time and would like to mix it up. As its a 192kbps mp3 though, I'll have to use a utility that can cut it up without a decode/encode so that I don't lose any quality...

[verbal]

hah yes actually. though its not really what I would call a pain to fast forward, i dont always want to listen to the first track every time and would like to mix it up. As its a 192kbps mp3 though, I'll have to use a utility that can cut it up without a decode/encode so that I don't lose any quality...

Which program? I was under the impression that most programs just decoded and reencoded.

[rtzig]

Yeah. I thought that even though they may not say they're actually decoding and re-encoding, that they had to in order to change the audio in any way.

[freezedried]

mp3directcut can slice up without doing anything to the audio. excellent little util.

[gambit]

I voted no mostly for sheer laziness. :p

[froopy seal]

Another simple tool for Win XP is the Mp3 Knife (http://www.vcsoftwares.com/mk.html). No installation, just unzip and start (handy if you're at work and mustn't install software on your machine).

In case you want more choice: just google for "mp3 split freeware" or something similar.

[stimpee]

yes i was thinking of mp3directcut. works a treat. of course you can just burn the thing to cd and use a cue file. something like this:

PERFORMER "Underworld"
TITLE "LovelyBrokenThing"
FILE "LovelyBrokenThing.mp3" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "JAL To Tokyo"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Billy Goat"
INDEX 01 05:37:00
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Peggy Sussed"
INDEX 01 11:39:00
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Dub Shepherd"
INDEX 01 14:00:00
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Lenny Penne"
INDEX 01 16:30:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Monkey Wink"
INDEX 01 23:33:00
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Witness"
INDEX 01 26:55:00

alternatively, mp3directcut can take a cue file and create and name the mp3s too...

EDIT: hah! which is what i've just done. using the Save Split... option with "%N %D - %T" and number starting at 01, it created 01 Underworld - JAL To Tokyo.mp3 etc. Unfortunately it doesnt create ID3v2 tags, only v1.1, but Winamp can copy to v2 and then I can add the same comments that were in the original mp3. Only problem is what to put in the album section now... Riverrun Project or LovelyBrokenThing?

mp3directcut is here: http://www.mpesch3.de/

Job done!

[*_*]

quicktime.

[holden]

Hey kids, once it's on your machine as an mp3, you can copy it and try it BOTH WAYS!
See if there's a difference! Shuffle the tracks! It's like "Program your own gig" from the EE DVD!

(p.s. i vote for keeping it whole...Karl said it's like getting the UW experience over the timespan of a 12" record...it's a journey, imo)

holden

[dubman]

i don't really know how it's meant to be presented...

all i know is that i've listened to it at least a dozen times through and i quite like how it is.

[verbal]

Hey kids, once it's on your machine as an mp3, you can copy it and try it BOTH WAYS!
See if there's a difference! Shuffle the tracks! It's like "Program your own gig" from the EE DVD!

(p.s. i vote for keeping it whole...Karl said it's like getting the UW experience over the timespan of a 12" record...it's a journey, imo)

holden

Aren't all UW albums like a journey? Do you not, at least once and a while, listen to one or two tracks off an album without listening to the whole thing from start to finish? ;)

[holden]

Aren't all UW albums like a journey? Do you not, at least once and a while, listen to one or two tracks off an album without listening to the whole thing from start to finish? ;)

Indeed they are, and indeed i do. But "Lovely Broken Thing" isn't an album in the traditional "long player" sense. Nor are the songs all entirely clear-cut as to where they start or stop (particularly those after Peggy Sussed).

[intensifier]

WINNERSDON'TUSEDRUGS, Ha Ha :p

[potatobroth]

Indeed they are, and indeed i do. But "Lovely Broken Thing" isn't an album in the traditional "long player" sense. Nor are the songs all entirely clear-cut as to where they start or stop (particularly those after Peggy Sussed).

ive been FF to Lenny Penny lately. 10min commute to work. all i would hear on a daily basis would be JAL and Billy Goat. :D

because i use an iPod, its no big deal, but if it were burned to disc and in my car, it would be a bit bothersome having to literally hold down the FF button for a few minutes

[stimpee]

Nor are the songs all entirely clear-cut as to where they start or stop (particularly those after Peggy Sussed).oh, i think they are. Hence the cue file i posted above. mp3directcut did the job perfectly without re-encoding.

[holden]

oh, i think they are. Hence the cue file i posted above. mp3directcut did the job perfectly without re-encoding.

Difference of opinions! No prob. But anyway, here's again what Rick and Karl wrote:

"the downloads will consist of 5/6 different pieces interwoven, mixed, blended, whatever you want to call it into a single piece 25/30 minutes in length."

I'm interpreting it as a single piece. you are unweaving, unmixing, etc. i totally agree that this is possible and perhaps more convenient for listening. i just got the impression that, what with the new means of release, the inclusion of the photo gallery, the new musical theme/direction/influence/whatever, that this was to be digested like one concept.

but to each their own! ;) :)

[stimpee]

Well, by cutting it, if i listen to the whole thing from start to finish its just the same as if im listening to the original mp3. this way just means i can add to my playlist with other things and randomise.

[dubman]

i think sometimes you would like to mix or include certain parts of it on a CD-R or mp3 player and not the whole thing.

like put peggy sussed as the first track.

[polar_action]

do what you like with it!

when i downloaded it i was in a hurry so its in the car as a cd in a oner... a nice listen... but i've got an hour commute.....

now on pc its split up and mixed in with each other in Ableton live and set on a loop at work... when i get bored i mix it up... computers are great.

just my 2 cents...


HOW AM I??? YOU BEEN CHEATING ON ME WITH MY BEST FRIEND!

[Dirty0900]

Why not release it as a mix and seperate files?!?!?!?!?!?!? Case closed, close the thread;)

[stimpee]

thread locked. :cool:









only joking ;)

[spacefish]

yes i was thinking of mp3directcut. works a treat. of course you can just burn the thing to cd and use a cue file. something like this:

PERFORMER "Underworld"
TITLE "LovelyBrokenThing"
FILE "LovelyBrokenThing.mp3" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "JAL To Tokyo"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Billy Goat"
INDEX 01 05:37:00
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Peggy Sussed"
INDEX 01 11:39:00
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Dub Shepherd"
INDEX 01 14:00:00
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Lenny Penne"
INDEX 01 16:30:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Monkey Wink"
INDEX 01 23:33:00
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Witness"
INDEX 01 26:55:00

alternatively, mp3directcut can take a cue file and create and name the mp3s too...

EDIT: hah! which is what i've just done. using the Save Split... option with "%N %D - %T" and number starting at 01, it created 01 Underworld - JAL To Tokyo.mp3 etc. Unfortunately it doesnt create ID3v2 tags, only v1.1, but Winamp can copy to v2 and then I can add the same comments that were in the original mp3. Only problem is what to put in the album section now... Riverrun Project or LovelyBrokenThing?

mp3directcut is here: http://www.mpesch3.de/

Job done!

I want to thank you for this post, the link and writing enough information that I could easily figure out how to use mp3directcut to split the file up into tracks. I don't know who figured out the cue file breaks, but thanks to them too. Believe it or not, mp3s are still fairly new to me, still play most of my music on CD (and I was still stuck on cassettes about 2 years after CDs became mainstream). Thanks for helping me move into the 21st century. :D

[verbal]

Those that broke it up, did you use the times posted above or other times?

[spacefish]

Those that broke it up, did you use the times posted above or other times?
I used the times stimpee posted, quoted in the post above yours.

[verbal]

Wow, tied.

I'm having a hard time deciding if I should do this. heh