Barking 2 (origins)

[testudo]

So how about this: with all the fear of UW sound not being around anymore due to heavy handed collaborations or as it officially states, "additional production". What if the boys released the album that had the original versions of the song, before the other artists gave their "additional production". Make it a fan only download.

I would love to have a quality studio version of You Do Scribble and Diamond Jigsaw.

Thoughts?

[TheBang]

I figured it would be called "Meowing"

[//\/\/]

no, i think it'd be called 'plaistow'

[stimpee]

well duh. It'd be called "Romford". Barking is only about 5 miles away.

[DwarfeD]

What if the boys released the album that had the original versions of the song, before the other artists gave their "additional production". Make it a fan only download.

I really have my doubts about how finished the tracks were which they sended out to the other producers. We did hear some of those tracks in earlier live or not really finalized forms. R&K didn't released the tracks as they were then since they clearly weren't satisfied enough with the results. So why would they release those early versions after all? Although I'm always interested in other versions of their work, I'm more interested in finished products then early demo versions.

[//\/\/]

well duh. It'd be called "Romford". Barking is only about 5 miles away.

i was working on the assumption that they're heading away from romford...:rolleyes: ;)

[stimpee]

R&K didn't released the tracks as they were then since they clearly weren't satisfied enough with the results. So why would they release those early versions after all? Although I'm always interested in other versions of their work, I'm more interested in finished products then early demo versions.I dont think its that black and white. many producers and musicians have wanted to work with Underworld for years, and so maybe now they thought was the time to do it. As we've heard from the live versions, the songs are there but why not have collaborations?

[testudo]

I dont think its that black and white. many producers and musicians have wanted to work with Underworld for years, and so maybe now they thought was the time to do it. As we've heard from the live versions, the songs are there but why not have collaborations?

spoken like a true administrator :D

[Dirty0900]

There have been so called studio versions of Bamboo and You Do Scribble played out before, but its a guess at what stage.

[Cadevil]

Any studio or UW radioshow versions of Strumpet or live versions only?

[joethelion]

I think it was only available on the Live Here Now recording

...there might have been a snippet of it waaaaay back in one of the early live broadcasts, but I doubt it

[Dirty0900]

Any studio or UW radioshow versions of Strumpet or live versions only?

Live only. From Moscow with love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3TOSGJXqfE#t=5m3s

[Future Proof]

I dont think its that black and white. many producers and musicians have wanted to work with Underworld for years, and so maybe now they thought was the time to do it. As we've heard from the live versions, the songs are there but why not have collaborations?

It could go either way. Perhaps R&K will weigh in on it one day.

Personally, Scribble is so much more (imho) focused and better than the earlier versions of YDS that it's personally hard to believe that the fellas didn't feel some sense of improvement as they got these tracks back (and for what we know, further tweaked them afterward).

[stimpee]

Any studio or UW radioshow versions of Strumpet or live versions only?I made a recording of the Brighton 08 show with my camera but its low quality. Its on RTSR i think *video*

[DwarfeD]

There have been so called studio versions of Bamboo and You Do Scribble played out before, but its a guess at what stage.

That was actually the point I was trying to make. We've heard a lot of demo-like tracks played during concerts, but that didn't meant that they were fully finished products. Remember Darc? A lot of dirts were dying to hear a full studio version of that track. So we were pretty excited about the fact that it would be on The Bells, The Bells. But when it was actually released it just turned out to be an edited version of the live HMH-track. I agree that it is nice to have it on an original CD and not as just another mp3 on my HD, but it shows that when they are trying out new tracks live it doesn't necessarily mean that any full versions of those tracks exist.. :)

[big screen satellite]

Barking is the finished album

leave it at that

who knows what Dubno looked like, or STITI before release... tracks evolve, either with or without A/P help

this is the album - and this is how its being delivered.

there might be unworked / unfinished versions, but these will never see the light of day

personally as a fan i really only want finished original tracks, improvs, live versions mean nothing, if its been committed to 'hard disk' then its finished and imo, the only version worth having - this is the version the boys want everyone else to hear.

i suspect that if Barking is a success we might see a remixed album... but who knows... wait til it comes out

i still can't wait... anyone have a copy yet? ;)

[testudo]

there might be unworked / unfinished versions, but these will never see the light of day


How can you be so sure? I agree that they wouldn't release crap versions on a cd... but mp3 through the internet, YES they have done that, EX: King of Snake.

What about Rowla/Cherry Pie, Rez/Cowgirl, Dark Train/Dark and Long? All of these are reworked versions of tracks.

My point is: don't be certain of what the boys will do. I like that they keep me guess, even if I am not so happy with the results.

[big screen satellite]

what i'm saying is - that i don't expect uw to bang out different versions of finished tracks like they used to, things have changed...

like it or not, fan boy versions are not what they are about...

i don't expect an ep or uneditted versions appearing anywhere soon

I may be proved wrong,

too much music at the present time will likely distort the impact of this impending album, so why dilute the album with unpopular / unfamiliar tracks to confuse the general mass public for which this album is clearly aimed...??

[unwound floors]

who knows what Dubno looked like

Cough, demo tape, cough ;)

[testudo]

Cough, demo tape, cough ;)

THANK YOU!:)

[DwarfeD]

Cough, demo tape, cough ;)

And which version of the album do you play more? The demo or the official one? :cool:

[big screen satellite]

And which version of the album do you play more? The demo or the official one? :cool:

the demo contains finished tracks, they are cannon, they didn't make the album, but were committed to tape at the time... ;)

i never play full albums myself now, just tracks... so this argument is irrelevant in the scheme of things for me - but i still stand by the album is the album argument... if the tracks are committed to a format even digital, then fair enough, but i'm not sure u/w will do that with versions of YDS or un produced tracks... its not like they display all van gogh's drawings of sunflowers, the original is the one on display...

[twicezero]

What about Rowla/Cherry Pie, Rez/Cowgirl, Dark Train/Dark and Long? All of these are reworked versions of tracks.


Bigmouth too

[testudo]

I knew that this would happen ;)