View Full Version : New Underworld album - Barking (Sept. 13, Sept 2 Japan)
gaborez
06-07-2010, 02:55 AM
The new album is called barking. it's out on September 13th (September 2nd in Japan).
little bit of info here:
http://www.gigwise.com/news/56722/Underworld-Unveil-New-Album-Tracklisting-And-Artwork?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
and a bit more here:
http://www.nme.com/news/underworld/51363
http://trafficjpn.com/news/show/433
[Track listing]
1. Bird 1 (additional production by Dubfire)
2. Always Loved A Film (a/p Mark Knight & D. Ramirez)
3. Scribble (a/p High Contrast)
4. Hamburg Hotel (a/p Appleblim & Al Tourettes)
5. Grace (a/p Dubfire)
6. Between Stars (a/p Mark K & D. Ramirez)
7. Diamond Jigsaw (a/p Paul van Dyk)
8. Moon In Water (a/p High Contrast)
9. Louisiana
10. <Japan only bonus track>
‘Barking’ is the title of Underworld’s first album in three years, and their first to be constructed with a brilliant cast of co-conspirators. All the tracks were written by the band in their Essex studio before being given to handpicked studio heads from across the whole spectrum of dance music to add some of their style and creativity to the band’s raw material. The result is a pimped-up Underworld record and their finest collection of songs in over a decade.
From the first undulating pulses of submariner bass, the first vocals – soft like a whisper in the ear - and the first fizz of hi-hats that force along the pace, the sound is unmistakably Underworld. Electronics wrapped effortlessly around songs; streams of consciousness lyrics that form indelible images; a perfectly balanced mix of melody and rhythm. Underworld’s sixth studio album is a thundering return to form, although it’s fair to say that the band responsible have never really been below par.
gaborez
06-07-2010, 03:04 AM
hmmm
is bird 1 actually a version of strumpet?
There is one bird in my house... :)
DwarfeD
06-07-2010, 03:39 AM
This is going to be a long, long summer... Nevertheless the tracklisting looks promising. Finally proper versions of ALAF, Between Stars and Diamond Jigsaw. Also nice to see the return of Moon in Water, which was one of the better new things they did in that broadcast. Can't wait to buy this on vinyl!!
King of Snake
06-07-2010, 03:51 AM
collab with Paul van Dyk??? That sounds scary.
Dirty0900
06-07-2010, 04:14 AM
Nine tracks as well, hopefully there going to be a decent length. Hope Moon in water has been tweaked, got the rip and I still skip it now and then. Looking forward to diamond jigsaw and between stars.
Safe to say that Strumpet has been renamed to 1 bird.
big screen satellite
06-07-2010, 04:26 AM
superb - diamond jigsaw
that's all i wanted to see
album is full of collabs which is great too....
i'm so looking forward to this - i hope it is 'barking' (mad) too...
unwound floors
06-07-2010, 04:53 AM
Well, this is bloody exciting, isn't it?
DwarfeD
06-07-2010, 05:02 AM
collab with Paul van Dyk??? That sounds scary.
It kinda does. But a collab with Dubfire seems rather nice, since I loved his reworks of Booka Shade's Charlotte and Smith & Selway's Transit Time.
Looking at last.fm it seems that there are some promo's floating around , since someone has been listening to the Barking (http://www.last.fm/music/Underworld/Barking) already. It also reveals that Grace (http://www.last.fm/music/Underworld/_/Grace) has a duration of 5:11 and Hamburg Hotel (http://www.last.fm/music/Underworld/_/Hamburg+Hotel) would last 5:15. Other new tracktitles won't show up yet, which may indicate that those tracks are the collaborations.
//\/\/
06-07-2010, 05:26 AM
what a shame there's absolutely fuck all on underworld live.
fucking terrible.
stimpee
06-07-2010, 05:29 AM
Artwork revealed on UWlive: http://www.underworldlive.com//news/newspage.asp?DID=1355
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 05:49 AM
Nice one!!! Can i admit this is what I expected OWB to be 3 years ago?? Still, very cool, can't wait to hear some of these songs proper, let the countdown begin!!
King of Snake
06-07-2010, 05:58 AM
let's hope it leaks before sep 13 ;)
ThingInABook
06-07-2010, 05:59 AM
i hope strumpet is bird 1 and it runs for 12mins+
and this confirms that good day today isn't an underworld track (but i still like the song - who made it?)...
also, happy to see ALAF, and between stars glued with diamond jigsaw. but jumping the cran is missing, perhaps it changed its named as strumpet did.
come, september, come.
TheBang
06-07-2010, 06:01 AM
and this confirms that good day today isn't an underworld track (but i still like the song - who made it?)...
You'll never guess (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showthread.php?t=10903&page=21)
ThingInABook
06-07-2010, 06:03 AM
You'll never guess (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showthread.php?t=10903&page=21)
of everyone...
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 06:24 AM
It is nice to see ALAF on here...I'm assuming it's the version they played live in Brixton two years back, with lyrics and all ("heaaaa-vann, heaaa-vaaaan, can you feel it??"), but part of me really hopes it's the "Silver Boots" version as well...also surprised to see "Moon in Water" here, I really wonder how it will sound, really liked that track as kind of like a demo thing, but obviously it didn't feel complete...looking forward to it
Really glad "Diamond Jigsaw" is on the thing...for some reason I was afraid that people wouldn't like the track (because of the 80's synth noise) and that it might not come out :S
Seriously though this album is gonna be massive!!!
Dirty0900
06-07-2010, 06:45 AM
I'm concerned about Bamboo. I really want to own this song. Really hoping it's been renamed.
//\/\/
06-07-2010, 06:46 AM
Artwork revealed on UWlive: http://www.underworldlive.com//news/newspage.asp?DID=1355
indeed - shame they couldn't bring themselves to, like, share the tracklisting :rolleyes:
mind you - no hint of a japanese exclusive? shooley shum mishtake?:eek:
TheBang
06-07-2010, 07:02 AM
There is a Japanese exclusive bonus track, and Japan gets it on Sept. 2. As usual, Traffic has more info:
http://trafficjpn.com/news/show/433
[Track listing]
1. Bird 1 (additional production by Dubfire)
2. Always Loved A Film (a/p Mark Knight & D. Ramirez)
3. Scribble (a/p High Contrast)
4. Hamburg Hotel (a/p Appleblim & Al Tourettes)
5. Grace (a/p Dubfire)
6. Between Stars (a/p Mark K & D. Ramirez)
7. Diamond Jigsaw (a/p Paul van Dyk)
8. Moon In Water (a/p High Contrast)
9. Louisiana
+ Bonus track
Also, a Karl Hyde art exhibition in Tokyo:
KARL HYDE
"What's going on in your Head when you're Dancing?"
The world's first solo painting exhibition Karl Hyde
2010/8/25 [WED] - 9 / 15 [WED] 11:00 am-8: 00pm
Laforet Museum Harajuku
King of Snake
06-07-2010, 07:06 AM
wow, I had no idea there would be this many collabs. This is definitely gonna be VERY interesting.
Dirty0900
06-07-2010, 07:11 AM
There is a Japanese exclusive bonus track, and Japan gets it on Sept. 2. As usual, Traffic has more info:
http://trafficjpn.com/news/show/433
[Track listing]
1. Bird 1 (additional production by Dubfire)
2. Always Loved A Film (a/p Mark Knight & D. Ramirez)
3. Scribble (a/p High Contrast)
4. Hamburg Hotel (a/p Appleblim & Al Tourettes)
5. Grace (a/p Dubfire)
6. Between Stars (a/p Mark K & D. Ramirez)
7. Diamond Jigsaw (a/p Paul van Dyk)
8. Moon In Water (a/p High Contrast)
9. Louisiana
+ Bonus track
Also, a Karl Hyde art exhibition in Tokyo:
KARL HYDE
"What's going on in your Head when you're Dancing?"
The world's first solo painting exhibition Karl Hyde
2010/8/25 [WED] - 9 / 15 [WED] 11:00 am-8: 00pm
Laforet Museum Harajuku
Wow, so this is UW taking a turn at being the Chemical Brothers then? Going to be very interesting. Looking forward to this a lot.
gaborez
06-07-2010, 07:14 AM
from glasswerk.co.uk:
‘Barking’ is the title of Underworld’s first album in three years, and their first to be constructed with a brilliant cast of co-conspirators. All the tracks were written by the band in their Essex studio before being given to handpicked studio heads from across the whole spectrum of dance music to add some of their style and creativity to the band’s raw material. The result is a pimped-up Underworld record and their finest collection of songs in over a decade.
From the first undulating pulses of submariner bass, the first vocals – soft like a whisper in the ear - and the first fizz of hi-hats that force along the pace, the sound is unmistakably Underworld. Electronics wrapped effortlessly around songs; streams of consciousness lyrics that form indelible images; a perfectly balanced mix of melody and rhythm. Underworld’s sixth studio album is a thundering return to form, although it’s fair to say that the band responsible have never really been below par.
http://www.glasswerk.co.uk/news/national/8780/Underworld+Reveal+New+Album+Tracklisting
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 07:16 AM
There is a Japanese exclusive bonus track, and Japan gets it on Sept. 2. As usual, Traffic has more info:
http://trafficjpn.com/news/show/433
[Track listing]
1. Bird 1 (additional production by Dubfire)
2. Always Loved A Film (a/p Mark Knight & D. Ramirez)
3. Scribble (a/p High Contrast)
4. Hamburg Hotel (a/p Appleblim & Al Tourettes)
5. Grace (a/p Dubfire)
6. Between Stars (a/p Mark K & D. Ramirez)
7. Diamond Jigsaw (a/p Paul van Dyk)
8. Moon In Water (a/p High Contrast)
9. Louisiana
+ Bonus track
Wow, I wonder how many tracks there are like Scribble here?? Like, based off a tune we all know, but massively reworked, with new hooks and a whole new feel?? Really awesome to see Mark Knight and D Ramirez here since "Downpipe" was so good. The only thing is "Diamond Jigsaw", really hope they kept that one mostly the same!
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 07:16 AM
Also, how great would it be if Bamboo was the bonus track???
King of Snake
06-07-2010, 07:19 AM
Wow, so this is UW taking a turn at being the Chemical Brothers then? Going to be very interesting. Looking forward to this a lot.
not really, the chems never really did production collabs did they? They just brought in loads of guest vocalists.
TheBang
06-07-2010, 07:42 AM
http://www.glasswerk.co.uk/news/national/8780/Underworld+Reveal+New+Album+Tracklisting
There we go; that must be the press release verbatim. That's the English version of what's posted on Traffic.
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 07:50 AM
let's hope it leaks before sep 13 ;)
Honestly I really hope it doesn't, I mean in the internet age the leak date is more important than the "official" date. I struggled with that a lot with LCD Soundsystem's Sound of Silver album, which leaked in December of 2006 but wasn't released until March 2007. I did buy the disc when it was released, but couldn't resist the leak, thinking, "nobody's going to be talking about this album anymore by the time it's actually released"...if it leaks two weeks early, I can resist that, but if it shows up say tomorrow I'm gonna have major problems :S
purlieu
06-07-2010, 08:10 AM
Well, let me be the first negative poster: I don't actually like any of the collaborators and might actually download this before release as I'm honestly not sure I'll like it too much. Hmmm. :/
King of Snake
06-07-2010, 08:12 AM
congratulations man :rolleyes:
potatobroth
06-07-2010, 09:00 AM
By my count, we've heard 6 of the 9 at some stage in their tracky-life. I'm super excited to hear the final release and teh collabs should be pretty awesome. PvD, however, I do not like. But its not like he wrote the tracks so I guess it'll be okay.
Sept 13th seems SOOO far away.
//\/\/
06-07-2010, 09:02 AM
There is a Japanese exclusive bonus track, and Japan gets it on Sept. 2.
and there was me taking the piss.:rolleyes:
//\/\/
06-07-2010, 09:05 AM
so; rather than original uw material, and a plethora of remixes, we just get a set of remixes? will original, uw-only versions ever see the light of day, or are we just stuck, after 3 years, with a remix album?
i hope to fuck it's good.
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 09:20 AM
Where in the press release does it say they 'remixed' the work? Doesn't it just say 'add their touch' or something like that? I'm going to wait until I hear the album before I pass judgement.
Dubfire and Appleblim are both really good producers and I'm really looking forward to hearing those tracks.
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 09:21 AM
so; rather than original uw material, and a plethora of remixes, we just get a set of remixes? will original, uw-only versions ever see the light of day, or are we just stuck, after 3 years, with a remix album?
i hope to fuck it's good.
Yeah I don't think UW is letting these guys just toss off mixes that are just "stuff I wouldn't want on my album, with a few vocal samples from the original" the way most remix comps are. I think they are more like collaborations. They are probably pretty sure these are high quality.
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 09:27 AM
If Scribble is out this month, wouldn't it make sense to release a second single at the end of August or early September? Think that will be Diamond Jigsaw?
purlieu
06-07-2010, 09:34 AM
Is it going to sound like Underworld, though? It's very surprising, they've always had a very defined sound - there are obviously tracks that deviate, and a lot of variation in there, but almost everything they've done sounds very 'Underworld' - so I'm wondering why they've chosen to do an entire record of collabs. Did they have trouble finishing off tracks so get other people in (I doubt it, but it did cross my mind)? I dunno, something like this I can imagine being a really interesting side-project, but for the actual new album I'm a bit disappointed. I suppose a lack of interest in the collaborators isn't helping matters, I've never liked High Contrast, and there's a lot of more minimal, laptoppy sounding techno in there which really doesn't seem to fit the lush vibe and chunky beats Underworld are usually capable of. As for PvD, Jesus Christ.
I do really want to like this album and I am going to give it a fair chance once I listen, but this tracklist is the biggest disappointment for me in a while, musically.
I think the press release pissed me off a bit too with the 'strongest in ten years' and 'return to form' stuff, considering OWB is my favourite Underworld record, haha.
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 09:43 AM
All things considered UW have been in the business like, almost 30 years, hard to believe...20 years as mk2+. Maybe they just wanted to do something new. Somehow I don't see Karl and Rick as the type to say, "our fans might not like this"...if it sounds good to them, they'll do it. Maybe I'm wrong but I think "Scribble" is going to be the template...it's got new shoes, but it's still UW all the way through, and besides it's great to see these guys exploring new sounds at this stage in their career.
//\/\/
06-07-2010, 09:51 AM
Where in the press release does it say they 'remixed' the work? Doesn't it just say 'add their touch' or something like that?
surely adding your style and creativity to a song's raw material is remixing?
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 09:57 AM
yeah but it's not like they are just going to release something like "The Bells The Bells" in place of the original album.
Caprice
06-07-2010, 09:58 AM
paul van dyk and high contrast?!
holy shit!
purlieu
06-07-2010, 10:01 AM
Maybe I'm wrong but I think "Scribble" is going to be the template...it's got new shoes, but it's still UW all the way through, and besides it's great to see these guys exploring new sounds at this stage in their career.
I suppose this is the problem, I like the vocals and some of the synths, and it's really catchy, but whenver I listen to Scribble I do have this uncomfortable 'shut the fuck up High Contrast' rage bubbling inside me.
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 10:17 AM
surely adding your style and creativity to a song's raw material is remixing?
I don't think so but we're splitting hairs. Will reserve judgement. I just don't think this is going to end up sounding like a remix compilation.
khouri
06-07-2010, 10:49 AM
I will very happily purchase Barking and listen with an open mind but my reaction to this news is not good. I'm afraid we're going to have another Holding the Moth/Scribble situation here, except with even more songs I loved initially -- Always Loved a Film, Moon in Water, Diamond Jigsaw, Between Stars -- getting the unnecessary everything-and-the-kitchen-sink production style.
I'd obviously rather have the proper Underworld/demo version of this and then see the band enjoy the potential benefits of a high profile remix album. Hoping more than ever for Underworld versions as B-sides a la Dirty/Cowgirl and Dark & Long.
joethelion
06-07-2010, 10:49 AM
this sounds like it could be cool...
I mean - "Scribble" doesn't sound THAT far removed from the "Underworld sound" (like it doesn't not sound like UW)
I doubt "Bamboo" will be on the album (mmmaybe a bside). I say that just b/c it's been kicking around for so long, and the lyrics didn't really develop beyond the "Lenny Penne" ones.
I'm really hoping that like - "Hamburg Hotel (a/p Appleblim & Al Tourettes)" is "Telematic Peal" ... just b/c I could picture Appleblim doing something with the version f/ the June 11th Broadcast)
{EDIT}
having thought about it... I will be QUITE upset if we don't get a bunch of b-sides with this album! B/c there would at least be the "demo" version of almost every song... plus a lot of finished songs that we already know
ThingInABook
06-07-2010, 11:16 AM
on paper reads/sounds like a remix album. just because u/w did some tracks and sent them to other people to produce them. maybe rick tought he needed feedback?
or maybe he needed other points of view.
scribble does sound like underworld with some extra production mixed. also, anyone remembers this version of between stars?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qepixZREow&feature=player_embedded
this video was from last year, and maybe that was the original underworld version. this was after downpipe and probably they liked working with other people.
you know, it gets lonely in the studio...
bryantm3
06-07-2010, 11:26 AM
i've never heard that version- that's amazing. way better than what i've heard.
darktrain
06-07-2010, 11:29 AM
Additional production, remix, call it what you will...in any case, I'm sure R&K took a final pass on every track, so I really can't see this feeling/sounding like a remix album.
The one thing that did strike me as odd, though: no Pricey?!
starfox203
06-07-2010, 11:30 AM
I'd obviously rather have the proper Underworld/demo version of this and then see the band enjoy the potential benefits of a high profile remix album. Hoping more than ever for Underworld versions as B-sides a la Dirty/Cowgirl and Dark & Long.
Why? Obviously UW made a very conscious and deliberate decision in this. Perhaps just UW-only demos wouldn't be very good. Besides there are / will be UW-only live versions. I have no doubt they know what they are doing.
Future Proof
06-07-2010, 11:36 AM
Coming from a group of guys that brought Darren Emerson in to add the final spice to their tracks, I'm not at all concerned. This is Underworld's album, not PvD or High Contrast's and I'm sure that everything that made it to the record will be unmistakably Underworld, and not hijacked.
crank
06-07-2010, 12:20 PM
[QUOTE=ThingInABook;122790]
scribble does sound like underworld with some extra production mixed. also, anyone remembers this version of between stars?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qepixZREow&feature=player_embedded
Need A HIGH quality BOOT of this NOW.
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 12:32 PM
i agree scribble didn't sound like the uw we are used to but it's damn good, I wouldn't care if this is a straight up country and western album if the music's great
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 12:33 PM
on second thought scratch that
starfox203
06-07-2010, 12:35 PM
Bird 1 has GOT to be Strumpet. It sounds like an opener.
starfox203
06-07-2010, 12:41 PM
Bird 1 has GOT to be Strumpet. It sounds like an opener.
And listening to some Dubfire, sounds like a match, stylistically.
Dunwho
06-07-2010, 12:53 PM
Ugh.... i was really looking forward to an Underworld album.
Not going to pass judgement till i hear it but there is nothing really exciting about hearing Underworld do collabs... especially after hearing how You Do Scribble turned out, this may be the least cohesive album yet, and I really wonder how it is all going to be live...
Bleh...:(
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 01:06 PM
And listening to some Dubfire, sounds like a match, stylistically.
yes, my thoughts too
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 01:12 PM
Ugh.... i was really looking forward to an Underworld album.
Not going to pass judgement till i hear it but there is nothing really exciting about hearing Underworld do collabs... especially after hearing how You Do Scribble turned out, this may be the least cohesive album yet, and I really wonder how it is all going to be live...
Bleh...:(
have a little faith will you
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 01:15 PM
Always Loved A Film w/ Ramirez and whatshisface could turn out to be the best thing on the album. Really love that track and i'm excited they're going to use it on the album.
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 01:16 PM
Jumbo used samples from fishermen in Louisiana, I wonder if this track uses more from that recording?
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 01:17 PM
also, i'm from Louisiana....therefore...STOKED!
bryantm3
06-07-2010, 01:20 PM
Additional production, remix, call it what you will...in any case, I'm sure R&K took a final pass on every track, so I really can't see this feeling/sounding like a remix album.
The one thing that did strike me as odd, though: no Pricey?!
i'm okay with that. this should be the beginning of MK3.
The one thing that did strike me as odd, though: no Pricey?!
DP plays a support roll in the band, you see him on stage during live shows, but maybye not so much in the studio.
darktrain
06-07-2010, 02:08 PM
DP plays a support roll in the band, you see him on stage during live shows, but maybye not so much in the studio.
Right, I just figured while they were throwing the door open to studio collabos that he might be included, especially since he's already familiar with the tracks.
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 02:11 PM
I would love to hear what Price could have contributed to the album. His contributions to the live sets have been wonderful. Hope there's no hard feelings and Price continues to be a part of Underworld Live.
ThingInABook
06-07-2010, 02:40 PM
Need A HIGH quality BOOT of this NOW.
me too, but it seems that nobody (with the exception of that vid) recorded anything from bestival.
His contributions to the live sets have been wonderful. Hope there's no hard feelings and Price continues to be a part of Underworld Live.
But what specifically has DP done live? Does he play a couple of his tracks from ableton... we don't really know do we? I mean underworld were amazing playing live in late 1999/2000 without him, why do they need him now?
Andrea
06-07-2010, 03:01 PM
I was looking forward to an U/W album and maybe a second CD with remixes not only one remix album.
Even though I really like the latest collaborations like Beebop Hurry, Downpipe and Scribble.
Now I understand the colourful cover.... But PvDyk?! That was a big surprise.
Feels good that I´m at least not the only one here who question that.
I saw him in Stockholm for a couple of years ago and I wasn´t impressed by his "contact with the audience" (or shall I simply call it "lack of feeling"). But who knows, maybe he performs better in studio. I keep my fingers...
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 03:03 PM
The tracks Darren Price contributed have been great.
Yard Beat
Circus Faker
5ft5
Everybody Jack
Shake That Higher
I'm sure there are some i'm forgetting but those are the ones I can recall off the top.
BrotherLovesDub
06-07-2010, 03:16 PM
I wonder if Always Loved A Film will have the same lyrics as the version from Brixton on Nov. 1, 2008.
I think this is going to be a great album. I love 5 of these songs in the versions i've heard so unless the collaborators really fucked them up, it's going to be crazy good.
Lx_Nen
06-07-2010, 03:27 PM
also, i'm from Louisiana....therefore...STOKED!
I used to live just up the road from http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Barking&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=30.377282,40.913086&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Barking,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.539542,0.081185&spn=0.00387,0.004994&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.539468,0.081543&panoid=ZCC6svpgR36wNGFeJyDm0Q&cbp=12,297.52,,3,3.18 !
(and very squalid it was too!)
dubman
06-07-2010, 03:41 PM
Coming from a group of guys that brought Darren Emerson in to add the final spice to their tracks, I'm not at all concerned. This is Underworld's album, not PvD or High Contrast's and I'm sure that everything that made it to the record will be unmistakably Underworld, and not hijacked.
yeah, im not worried about this either.
purlieu
06-07-2010, 04:24 PM
I mean - "Scribble" doesn't sound THAT far removed from the "Underworld sound" (like it doesn't not sound like UW)
Really? I've played the track to quite a few people and the response has been uniformly "that's Underworld?!", in both positive and negative lights. My girlfriend (an Underworld fan) has banned me from playing it when she's around, while another mate of mine didn't like them much until this song. Take away the vocals (and maybe the breakdown) and it sounds nothing like Underworld I find. Truth is, I've followed them for years, and enjoyed their incorporation of housey elements and techno elements and the occasional breaks, but I don't enjoy poppy drum'n'bass that reminds me of Chase & Status. Neither do I enjoy anything Paul Van Dyk has ever been near. I'm not interested in buying High Contrast's music or Dubfire's really. It's a shame I can't buy new Underworld without having that involved. Hmmm.
TheBang
06-07-2010, 05:09 PM
i've never heard that version- that's amazing. way better than what i've heard.
:confused: It sounds just like the live versions.
dubman
06-07-2010, 05:33 PM
speaking of girlfriends, mine (being a casual fan) thought scribble was "odd".
"it's odd because: you have underworld, and they're usually a bit better... i mean at least a bit weirder than most other music like this. but this song isnt either of those, so you have just an average song and it's kinda boring, but this is underworld, so that's really weird."
which i suppose is more concise and level headed than me just pretending it hardly exists.
then we both shrugged and mumbled something about "they're just getting old i guess"
holden
06-07-2010, 06:05 PM
Just checking the news now. "Barking" -fantastic! Recalls the Barking mix of King of Snake (excellent) and of course Barney (wink wink).
Well, as mentioned above, i'll hold off judgement on any of the collaborations until i hear them. personally, i think this is UW keeping it fresh, being inspired by fairly new producers with distinct styles, and being willing to have their music shaped to appeal to an even broader demographic of EDM listeners. No doubt it'll be unmistakeably Underworld, and since we're not guaranteed singles or EPs to hear remixes, the LP versions will be the definitive versions for a while - in which case, one will be hard-pressed to determine how much was UW production and howw much was collaborative/additional production.
When i saw "Always Loved a Film" and "Moon in Water" on there, my heart fluttered with happy. Finally, a finished album version of ALAF - and considering how solid the collab with Knight & Ramirez on "Downpipe" was, i'm sure this'll rock. And as for Moon in Water- that one seems to strike a deep nerve in me...reallly hoping this becomes an epic track on par with Juanita....
purlieu
06-07-2010, 06:09 PM
personally, i think this is UW keeping it fresh, being inspired by fairly new producers with distinct styles, and being willing to have their music shaped to appeal to an even broader demographic of EDM listeners.
I thought they were sounding 'fresh' enough already without letting others change their sound for popularity.
holden
06-07-2010, 06:15 PM
I thought they were sounding 'fresh' enough already without letting others change their sound for popularity.
Agree, we never know what to expect from Smith & Hyde, they tackle so many styles well, and are always up for experimenting - chalk this up to more of the same spirit of turning expectations on their ear?
If it makes us feel any better, UW have been at this a lonng time and certainly know what they're doing and have a very high standard of quality control (i.e. there are very few tracks that are universally panned, and even those have their fans and have redeeming qualities)...i'm sure they ddn't let the collaborators ruin anything, nor are they going to release anything they're not proud to put their name on.
when a single gets remixed, typically it's at the label's behest, not the band's. "Barking" is an UW album with collaborators certainly picked or preferred by UW themselves.
Let's just hopee summer moves along quickly, or there are more promos to hear before Sept.!
holden
06-07-2010, 06:36 PM
Ok, so who knows who wrote the official press release but...
"All the tracks were written by the band in their Essex studio before being given to handpicked studio heads from across the whole spectrum of dance music to add some of their style and creativity to the band’s raw material. The result is a pimped-up Underworld record and their finest collection of songs in over a decade."
This assures us that the colaborators were chosen by the band, at least.
And also, what's this - finest collection in over a decade? Thatimplees this is better than "A Hundred Days Off" (ok, the band admit that was a safe bet) and "Oblivion with Bells" ? (interesting, since karl was quoted as saying that OWB was the album Rick always wanted to make.) Hmm.
In any case, the album is aimed for the dancefloor - if it approaches the heights of Beaucoup Fish in that regard, it'll be outstanding, imho.
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-07-2010, 06:42 PM
I wonder if Always Loved A Film will have the same lyrics as the version from Brixton on Nov. 1, 2008.
I think this is going to be a great album. I love 5 of these songs in the versions i've heard so unless the collaborators really fucked them up, it's going to be crazy good.
I'm thinking the same thing. Pretty much guaranteed this album is going to rule. If the 3 "new" tracks are as good as the rest, this may be their best album.
the mongoose
06-07-2010, 08:00 PM
Moon in Water is one of my favorite tracks from last year.....I put it on almost every time I go in the hot sauna at the gym. So this is great news (High Contrast better not fuck it up though).
TheBang
06-07-2010, 10:00 PM
So, Always Loved a Film ties Beautiful Burnout for gestation time
Biro > BB (2000-2007)
Always Loved a Film (2003-2010)
But Bird 1 (assuming it's Strumpet) beats them all:
Strumpet > Bird 1 (2000-2010)
starfox203
06-07-2010, 10:05 PM
Everyone needs to chill out. Bands almost always have other outside influences contribute to thier albums in the form of mixers and producers. For example, U2 brought in Flood to contribute to an album they did called Achtung Baby. It turned out brilliant. Artists re always collaborating to enhance their sound. Underworld is just spreading this out a bit and being upfront about it.
Sometimes two artists team up that don't seem like they belong together and it works great. Who would have thought the lead singer of Blur and a hip-hop producer would be anything, but they collaborated (with numerous other bands and artists) to form Gorillaz. Johnny Cash worked with rap producer Rick Rubin to make some of the best music of his career.
This is a bold move by UW and the results could very well be extraordinary.
gaborez
06-08-2010, 02:43 AM
Well said, starfox203 :)
stay positive, people! i'm gonna enjoy the summer listening to scribble & waiting for this new album :)
And some live shows please! COME ON!!!! w0000t!
whatmakesustick
06-08-2010, 04:18 AM
Can't wait for the new record. I am excited to see what the collaborations turn out like and I am confident that they will have pulled it together into a cohesive album. I think its great they are trying something different. They have a massive back catalogue of tunes - if I want to listen to something like Juanita...I can listen to Juanita. Anyway, I have no doubt the new tracks will sound like the Underworld we know and love!
I, like everyone else would love some studio versions of older versions of the tunes (please let us have a Dark and Long style release!!!) but at least we can get hold of 'most' of those tunes quite easily (assuming you don't want every version of every unreleased tune over the last 10 years!!)...thinking Strumpet and ALF of the Brixton CD's...
My gripe is that it is not released for 1/4 of a year!! I am not looking forward to a summer of searching through crap quality vids from the live shows looking for new material....or looking on ebay for overpriced promo's. Its been hard enough keeping up with news of 'new' and 'new versions' of tracks over the last couple of years...soon there will be a full albums worth of material and versions out there. I am seriously considering trying to ignore all talk of new material until we actually get physical releases!!
Slightly off topic - but would love to hear more from Darren Price. His tracks that have been played at the live shows recently have been excellent. Hoping he has a few new tracks also :)
big screen satellite
06-08-2010, 04:25 AM
i truly think this album is not made with the moany old bastards on here in mind, this is an album for the masses - for the modern radio 1 dance audience, for the festival goers, for people who like dance music with lyrics - i.e. not you lot!
thats not a slight against you guys its just the fact that uw are having fun and want everyone to enjoy it - this album is NOT going to be for the 'hardcore' fans, who like b-side / ep tracks like deep arch or mosaic or whatever....
this is not a techno / knob twiddling album like second toughest, or dubno, its not a dingy late night 'walking scruffy streets of london' album, its an up, happy album of good tunes (i expect)
we all know uw have a locker full of tunes, some more mellow and instrumental, others poppy and dancey, and tbh, these get the better reactions from the general public, a couple of dozen bedroom dwelling forum snobs don't keep KH & RS in ipads...
who is best to polish uws work for the dancefloors than people who play the tracks out week in and week out
you might not like PvD but millions of ppl do, and he likes UW, so it makes super great sense, imo
give this album a chance before you start criticizing it before even hearing it... scribble is good no?
and we've heard a crappy live version of Diamond Jigsaw - its hardly a basis on which to judge an album that no-one has heard yet...
come on guys, i expected this type of reaction, but wait until you hear the material before throwing shit towards the fan....
Bargo
06-08-2010, 05:00 AM
I'm tentatively excited. Sounds like it could be good fun. September feels like such a long way away though, I hope it doesn't leak too early. Maybe this time around I'll not give into temptation and won't listen to it before its actual release, something I was unable to do for AHDO and OWB :o
jose m
06-08-2010, 06:28 AM
i truly think this album is not made with the moany old bastards on here in mind, this is an album for the masses - for the modern radio 1 dance audience, for the festival goers, for people who like dance music with lyrics - i.e. not you lot!
thats not a slight against you guys its just the fact that uw are having fun and want everyone to enjoy it - this album is NOT going to be for the 'hardcore' fans, who like b-side / ep tracks like deep arch or mosaic or whatever....
this is not a techno / knob twiddling album like second toughest, or dubno, its not a dingy late night 'walking scruffy streets of london' album, its an up, happy album of good tunes (i expect)
we all know uw have a locker full of tunes, some more mellow and instrumental, others poppy and dancey, and tbh, these get the better reactions from the general public, a couple of dozen bedroom dwelling forum snobs don't keep KH & RS in ipads...
who is best to polish uws work for the dancefloors than people who play the tracks out week in and week out
you might not like PvD but millions of ppl do, and he likes UW, so it makes super great sense, imo
give this album a chance before you start criticizing it before even hearing it... scribble is good no?
and we've heard a crappy live version of Diamond Jigsaw - its hardly a basis on which to judge an album that no-one has heard yet...
come on guys, i expected this type of reaction, but wait until you hear the material before throwing shit towards the fan....
right on brother ! :)
BrotherLovesDub
06-08-2010, 11:37 AM
come on guys, i expected this type of reaction, but wait until you hear the material before throwing shit towards the fan....
Overall I think the reaction has been positive.
joethelion
06-08-2010, 12:02 PM
So, Always Loved a Film ties Beautiful Burnout for gestation time
Biro > BB (2000-2007)
Always Loved a Film (2003-2010)
But Bird 1 (assuming it's Strumpet) beats them all:
Strumpet > Bird 1 (2000-2010)
...wait - Stumpet's that old?
the version of "Biro..." that you're talking about is the live one from Electraglide, right?
TheBang
06-08-2010, 12:08 PM
...wait - Stumpet's that old?
the version of "Biro..." that you're talking about is the live one from Electraglide, right?
Yes, which is also the same show at which Strumpet was first played! A seminal show, indeed.
joethelion
06-08-2010, 12:12 PM
wait... seriously? I need to listen to it again
so - the "early Biro" is after "Pearl's Girl" right? (I've got it labeled as 'Trousers')
and is "the early Strumpet" the improv after NUXX?
(edit)
oh and about girlfriends hearing "Scribble" -> mine thought it was a ringtone
ThingInABook
06-08-2010, 12:35 PM
well, i've scribble as a ringtone. :D
september seems so far far away... maybe they want to start a tour during september? because seasons change that month.
also, japanese release, so going to get it.
khouri
06-08-2010, 12:56 PM
Shit! Somehow I missed the Brixton release completely. Is there a complete list of the Live Here Now releases somewhere? The Forum search isn't being very helpful. I've got:
UWRLIVECD-003 Glasgow Academy. Scotland 13.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-005 Roundhouse, London, October 17 2007
UWRLIVECD-006 Roundhouse, London, October 18 2007
UWRLIVECD-007 London Roundhouse, England (29-02-2008)
UWRLIVECD-010 Rotterdam Massilo, Holland (29-01-2008)
UWRLIVECD-012 Heineken Music Hall, Amsterdam, Holland, 30th January 2008
UWRLIVECD-013 Live at The Oblivion Ball, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo, Japan 24.11.2007
[UWRLIVECD-013] Ancienne Belgique, Brussels, Belgium (31-01-2008)
UWRLIVECD-014 London Roundhouse. England 28.02.2008
the-star-samurai
06-08-2010, 01:31 PM
Yesterday night I looked into Al Tourettes and Appleblim, who are involved with "Hamburg Hotel" and the latter is dubstep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Asp5r78eD4 / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk454hSy2zY ) and the former is dubstep - but not that typical dubstep. Actually the song I listened to by him ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbIVhYUP-8 called "Dodgem") is pretty neat. Almost minimal techno. So I think "Hamburg Hotel" is going to be fucking badass and totally Underworld-sounding - but in a different light.
I will totally get a pre-order of Barking because I have always had full confidence that I will love ANYTHING Underworld creates. So I am not worried at all.
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-08-2010, 01:32 PM
Isn't "Strumpet" just a remake of "Confusion the Waitress"? Or am I just having an aneurysm???
Dirty0900
06-08-2010, 02:15 PM
Isn't "Strumpet" just a remake of "Confusion the Waitress"? Or am I just having an aneurysm???
Strumpet is a ten year old song that is just seeing the light.
BrotherLovesDub
06-08-2010, 02:22 PM
Isn't "Strumpet" just a remake of "Confusion the Waitress"? Or am I just having an aneurysm???
Explain how, in you opinion, Strumpet is a remake of Confusion The Waitress. You may be right. You may be crazy.
darktrain
06-08-2010, 02:24 PM
Shit! Somehow I missed the Brixton release completely. Is there a complete list of the Live Here Now releases somewhere? The Forum search isn't being very helpful. I've got:
UWRLIVECD-003 Glasgow Academy. Scotland 13.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-005 Roundhouse, London, October 17 2007
UWRLIVECD-006 Roundhouse, London, October 18 2007
UWRLIVECD-007 London Roundhouse, England (29-02-2008)
UWRLIVECD-010 Rotterdam Massilo, Holland (29-01-2008)
UWRLIVECD-012 Heineken Music Hall, Amsterdam, Holland, 30th January 2008
UWRLIVECD-013 Live at The Oblivion Ball, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo, Japan 24.11.2007
[UWRLIVECD-013] Ancienne Belgique, Brussels, Belgium (31-01-2008)
UWRLIVECD-014 London Roundhouse. England 28.02.2008
Also: (I can add the cat #'s later unless someone else wants to:)
2007/10/09 - Birmingham Academy
2007/10/16 - Apollo - Manchester
2008/01/28 - Palladium - Köln
2008/10/31 - Brixton Academy - London
2008/11/01 - Brixton Academy - London
14 in total.
TheBang
06-08-2010, 02:28 PM
so - the "early Biro" is after "Pearl's Girl" right? (I've got it labeled as 'Trousers')
and is "the early Strumpet" the improv after NUXX?
Biro, yes. Strumpet, no, it's played before Confusion the Waitress.
Shit! Somehow I missed the Brixton release completely. Is there a complete list of the Live Here Now releases somewhere? The Forum search isn't being very helpful. I've got:
Here you go:
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showpost.php?p=80774&postcount=21
mmm skyscraper
06-08-2010, 02:29 PM
Shit! Somehow I missed the Brixton release completely. Is there a complete list of the Live Here Now releases somewhere? The Forum search isn't being very helpful. I've got:
UWRLIVECD-003 Glasgow Academy. Scotland 13.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-005 Roundhouse, London, October 17 2007
UWRLIVECD-006 Roundhouse, London, October 18 2007
UWRLIVECD-007 London Roundhouse, England (29-02-2008)
UWRLIVECD-010 Rotterdam Massilo, Holland (29-01-2008)
UWRLIVECD-012 Heineken Music Hall, Amsterdam, Holland, 30th January 2008
UWRLIVECD-013 Live at The Oblivion Ball, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo, Japan 24.11.2007
[UWRLIVECD-013] Ancienne Belgique, Brussels, Belgium (31-01-2008)
UWRLIVECD-014 London Roundhouse. England 28.02.2008
UWRLIVECD-001 Southampton Guildhall. England 8.10.2007 - Unreleased
UWRLIVECD-002 Birmingham Academy. England 9.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-004 Manchester Apollo. England 16.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-008 Frankfurt Cocoon. Germany 1.11.2007 - Cancelled
UWRLIVECD-009 Berlin Columbiahalle. Germany 3.11.2007 - Cancelled
UWRLIVECD-011 Köln Palladium. Germany 28.01.2008
UWRLIVECD-015 Brixton Academy, London, England. 31.10.2008
UWRLIVECD-016 Underworld Brixton Academy, London, England. 01.11.2008
//\/\/
06-08-2010, 02:44 PM
vic: i'm barking mad, me.
bob: you lying get.
vic: i'm not - i love the place...
both: silent laughter.
khouri
06-08-2010, 04:01 PM
Thanks, all. Oof, it is going to cost me a fortune to dig up these missing releases, but I can't wait to listen to them.
Champiness
06-08-2010, 04:21 PM
Great news!
Also, after seeing "Moon In Water" on the tracklisting, I looked it up on my recording of the December radio show (which I listened to in its entirety when it aired live - ooh, I'm finally a part of Underworld history!) and I can really see how great a job High Contrast could do with this track if he gets it right. The entire song almost sounds like a lull before a drum'n'bass explosion.
Also also, there's a track from that radio show entitled "Barking". In case you don't feel like looking it up, I doubt it'll be on the album. It's pretty experimental, starting off with a spoken word and then just making some eerie whooshing noises. Plus it's only about a minute long.
Also also also, glad to see some of my wish-list tracks on there! I'm pretty safe in my knowledge that Mark & D. will treat ALAF and Between Stars with the greatest of care, and eager to hear (unlike some of you) what PvD+UW sounds like. Considering how poppy Diamond Jigsaw is, I think they picked the right track for him!
khouri
06-08-2010, 06:20 PM
Apologies for keeping this off-topic going but has anyone else experienced problems with downloading the Underworld Brixton shows from the Live Here Now site? I bought both available releases but the downloads appear to have frozen. Trying to redownload them doesn't work, LHN just tells me "Sorry! You Can't Download the Music".
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-08-2010, 06:49 PM
Listening to this to get me pumped for the new stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxdNS8WNSOY&feature=related
mmm skyscraper
06-08-2010, 08:08 PM
Listening to this to get me pumped for the new stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxdNS8WNSOY&feature=related
They should open a show with this song.
stimpee
06-09-2010, 01:59 AM
vic: i'm barking mad, me.
bob: you lying get.
vic: i'm not - i love the place...
both: silent laughter.LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCEYclnWf0#t=01m44s
DaddyAdv
06-09-2010, 06:18 AM
This is the shortest UW album title ever.
(now, over-interpret away).
Anyway, let's wait until we heard it.
If UW feel like doing a dancefloor album with the help of other artist, fine.
They don't need to prove anything, anymore.
And they are still open to new ways of making their music.
And also, remember how they once elaborated about other people carrying on "Underworld".
scary man
06-09-2010, 06:19 AM
Paul Van Dyk and Appleblim on the same album - Barking, indeed! :)
Can't wait!
crank
06-09-2010, 07:19 AM
You realize that on the previously mentioned December webcast there's a song called: "Barking"
Depeche Mode – “Barrel of a gun”
www.depechemode.com
Underworld – “Are you Rockstar?”
www.underworldlive.com
Spoken word – “School days”
Underworld – “Longing for what/the surrealist object”
www.underworldlive.com
Underworld – “Barking”
www.underworldlive.com
Charles Bukowski – “The state of world affairs”
www.bukowski.net/poems
potatobroth
06-09-2010, 07:54 AM
It just occured to me that I'm not as excited as I want to be over this album. It happened while listening to You Do Scribble during a late-night work session. That track has all the signature UW that I think in time, I'll miss when listening to Scribble. Scribble is a good track, but its hard to not hear how polished it is.
Obviously I haven't heard the album yet, but that doesn't change that I'm not as excited for this as I thought I would be. I wanna be really excited!
Oh, and the fact that PvD, while technically proficient, is total cheese doesn't help me one bit. Reading that the tracks were sent to these producers makes me think that they'll just stick their sounds into the track because well, they want to.
Dirty0900
06-09-2010, 08:08 AM
Whose got the 5 minutes rough cut of Moon In Water? This will be interesting in terms of development, no idea what stage this was in when it was broadcast.
DwarfeD
06-09-2010, 09:03 AM
Whose got the 5 minutes rough cut of Moon In Water? This will be interesting in terms of development, no idea what stage this was in when it was broadcast.
There you go (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5475302/09%20-%20Underworld%20-%20Underworld_Moon%20in%20Water.mp3)... :rolleyes:
ThingInABook
06-09-2010, 09:06 AM
There you go (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5475302/09%20-%20Underworld%20-%20Underworld_Moon%20in%20Water.mp3)... :rolleyes:
dwarfed, you're turning into my fav dirt :p thanks for the track
mmm skyscraper
06-09-2010, 09:28 AM
You realize that on the previously mentioned December webcast there's a song called: "Barking"
Depeche Mode – “Barrel of a gun”
www.depechemode.com
Underworld – “Are you Rockstar?”
www.underworldlive.com
Spoken word – “School days”
Underworld – “Longing for what/the surrealist object”
www.underworldlive.com
Underworld – “Barking”
www.underworldlive.com
Charles Bukowski – “The state of world affairs”
www.bukowski.net/poems
Just went back and listened to this. It sounds like the Core from Blake's 7.
Cadevil
06-09-2010, 10:44 PM
Everyone is making waaaayyyy too big a deal about "guest producers." Most bands work with a producer on a specific album. I mean what's the differenceif Steve Hall produced the album? Does that mean it's not an Underworld album? Just because Rick has self-produced the last few albums... The release does not say the songs are co-written. Unlike Downpipe which has artist listed as "underworld vs..."
Also find it funny to see the reviews of Scribble on iTunes. I wonder how much the general public (i.e. Non-dirts) will credit the guest producers for the final songs. While the dirts have the knowledge of having heard the progression of the songs for a while.
Oh by the way, I heard the extra track on the Japanese version is Five Points with oakenfold as the guest producer.
DwarfeD
06-10-2010, 05:28 AM
Oh by the way, I heard the extra track on the Japanese version is Five Points with oakenfold as the guest producer.
Oakenfold? I heard it was Tiësto...
DwarfeD
06-10-2010, 05:31 AM
dwarfed, you're turning into my fav dirt :p thanks for the track
You're welcome.. :rolleyes:
crank
06-10-2010, 10:01 AM
Just went back and listened to this. It sounds like the Core from Blake's 7.
Yeah, the whole thing is very ambient.
Well, let me be the first negative poster: I don't actually like any of the collaborators and might actually download this before release as I'm honestly not sure I'll like it too much. Hmmm. :/
how one-eyed:rolleyes::p
tokyorai
06-17-2010, 08:14 AM
Woohoo! Glad I am in Japan! Looking forward to getting this album!:D
//\/\/
06-18-2010, 05:41 AM
just noticed the 'japan 2nd september' bit - fucking typical. and disappointing, to be very honest. and a bit daft - how are you supposed discourage downloads when you stagger releases globally by 11 days?!
ultradave
06-18-2010, 11:33 PM
Five Points...
Why does this sound familiar to me? :confused::confused::confused:
Dirty0900
06-19-2010, 12:39 AM
Why does this sound familiar to me? :confused::confused::confused:
Nicknamed unknown improv/song which is long overdue for a release. very positive uplifting song which I love.
Champiness
06-19-2010, 06:50 AM
I'd love it if this song saw a release. Don't know if it'll ever happen though... usually if a song has a gestation period that long they'll play it live every so often. When was it last played? 1998?
TheBang
06-19-2010, 10:46 AM
I'd love it if this song saw a release. Don't know if it'll ever happen though... usually if a song has a gestation period that long they'll play it live every so often.
Although Strumpet went from 2000 to 2008 without being played, so there's always hope. And there was 020202, which went from 2001 to 2008.
When was it last played? 1998?
1999 is the last known time
http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/bySong/34
//\/\/
06-21-2010, 03:43 AM
so, they're hoping that stuff they've had floating around for over a decade will still cut it? maybe that's why they've turned to collaborators?
undarrenworld
06-21-2010, 11:30 AM
so, they're hoping that stuff they've had floating around for over a decade will still cut it? maybe that's why they've turned to collaborators?
Maybe, but its amazing that songs from 1998 - Five Points, 2000 - Always Loved A Film will be on album, these are long time fan favourites, especially Always Loved a Film. Thank you everybody for the info, Im looking forward for the album:)
potatobroth
06-21-2010, 01:22 PM
Huh? 5 Points is on the album?
jose m
06-22-2010, 09:03 AM
so, they're hoping that stuff they've had floating around for over a decade will still cut it? maybe that's why they've turned to collaborators?
stuff has always been floating around underworld for years.
they been at it along time and its the way they work.
its a pretty normal creative process imo and not a sign of "hoping that stuff they've had floating around for over a decade will still cut it".
:p
BrotherLovesDub
06-22-2010, 09:12 AM
If you check the thread where we say what we hope is on the album you'll find all of our hopes fulfilled. So excited for this album.
big screen satellite
06-22-2010, 09:31 AM
If you check the thread where we say what we hope is on the album you'll find all of our hopes fulfilled. So excited for this album.
hmm, i was hoping for a Born Slippy remix LP... Lulz Slippy
maybe next time...
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
06-22-2010, 12:19 PM
If you check the thread where we say what we hope is on the album you'll find all of our hopes fulfilled. So excited for this album.
Basically, yeah. This is the album we've been waiting for the past like, 4-6 years...haven't looked foward to an album this much ever!
hypeless
06-24-2010, 01:28 AM
hmmm
is bird 1 actually a version of strumpet?
There is one bird in my house... :)
Listening to the Brixton gigs just now, I really hope so.
heh. always thought he was saying "there is wonder in my house...."
stimpee
06-24-2010, 05:06 AM
hmm, i was hoping for a Born Slippy remix LP... Lulz Slippy
maybe next time...
Here it is: Out on Traffic Japan beginning of september (2CD):
Born Slippy 8:31
Born Slippy .NUXX 9:44
Born Slippy .TELEMATIC 9:39
Born Slippy .NUXX (Short) 3:45
Born Slippy .NUXX (Nuxx Mix) 11:35
Born Slippy .NUXX (Darren Price Remix) 6:28
Born Slippy .NUXX (Darren Price Remix 2) 8:09
Born Slippy .NUXX (Deep Pan) 9:58
Born Slippy .Nuxx (2003 Edit) 3:58
Born Slippy .Nuxx (12'' Edit) 7:01
Born Slippy .Nuxx (Down Version) 4:55
Born Slippy .Nuxx (London Elektricity Mix) 8:15
Born Slippy .Nuxx (Paul Oakenfold Mix) 8:11
jose m
06-24-2010, 09:06 AM
ordering now !!!!
Dirty0900
06-24-2010, 11:24 AM
I have a lovely 12" Born Slippy .Nuxx (London Elektricity Mix promo with Karls signature in silver pen.
ThingInABook
06-24-2010, 11:31 AM
Here it is: Out on Traffic Japan beginning of september (2CD):
Born Slippy 8:31
Born Slippy .NUXX 9:44
Born Slippy .TELEMATIC 9:39
Born Slippy .NUXX (Short) 3:45
Born Slippy .NUXX (Nuxx Mix) 11:35
Born Slippy .NUXX (Darren Price Remix) 6:28
Born Slippy .NUXX (Darren Price Remix 2) 8:09
Born Slippy .NUXX (Deep Pan) 9:58
Born Slippy .Nuxx (2003 Edit) 3:58
Born Slippy .Nuxx (12'' Edit) 7:01
Born Slippy .Nuxx (Down Version) 4:55
Born Slippy .Nuxx (London Elektricity Mix) 8:15
Born Slippy .Nuxx (Paul Oakenfold Mix) 8:11
so what i'm gonna do with my born slippy singles? use them as coasters?
:P
dubman
06-28-2010, 09:38 AM
i remember when i nearly spent $30 to just have the down version on CD
crazy.
testudo
06-28-2010, 09:39 AM
Amazon Japan has 3 releases, Barking Box, cd+dvd, and cd:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/Barking-%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E8%B1%AA%E8%8 F%AFBOX%E4%BB%95%E6%A7%98-DVD%E4%BB%98-%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AF%E3%8 3%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89/dp/B003SUP1LM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1
http://www.amazon.co.jp/Barking-%E3%83%87%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%BB%E3%82%A8%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7% E3%83%B3-DVD-%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%8 3%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%BB%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC% E8%AA%9E%E8%A7%A3%E8%AA%AC%E4%BB%98%E3%81%8D%E5%9B %BD%E5%86%85%E7%9B%A4-PCDT-21/dp/B003SUP1L2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1277739357&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.jp/Barking-%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%8 3%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%BB%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC% E8%AA%9E%E8%A7%A3%E8%AA%AC%E4%BB%98%E3%81%8D%E5%9B %BD%E5%86%85%E7%9B%A4-PCDT-23-%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AF%E3%8 3%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89/dp/B003SUP1LC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1277739357&sr=8-3
crank
06-28-2010, 11:53 AM
Here's hoping that's worldwide and not a japan exclusive.
//\/\/
06-28-2010, 11:58 AM
Here's hoping that's worldwide and not a japan exclusive.
my breath is SO not being held :(
stimpee
06-28-2010, 12:04 PM
Barking [Deluxe Edition (CD + DVD) / Japanese domestic board with bonus commentary] (PCDT-21/22) [CD + DVD, Deluxe Edition]
Plunge into the forefront of the club scene UNDERWORLD 6th album release "Barking (Barking)", lead single 』[Always Loved A Film, including the full Kiraansemu finally finished!
Music is produced with the finest artists working together under the luxury
Classic albums as albums are showing the highest finish in over a decade!
basic CD says: Barking [Japanese Edition bonus track with commentary country] (PCDT-23)
--- this badly translated engrish seems to indicate that ALAF will be a single...
//\/\/
06-28-2010, 12:09 PM
does it mention 'anybody outside of japan can just go poke it because we're not really that interested in giving you the full package.' ? or am i being too cynical or expecting too much of my neighbours?
Dirty0900
06-28-2010, 12:16 PM
does it mention 'anybody outside of japan can just go poke it because we're not really that interested in giving you the full package.' ? or am i being too cynical or expecting too much of my neighbours?
I did wonder about a boxset release and raised the question, hoping something happens for us. If not, I'll have to buy it from there as I'd like the bonus track, especially if it turns out to be Bamboo or something.
How easy is it to order from Amazon.jp?
//\/\/
06-28-2010, 12:23 PM
sorry; but if they can't bring themselves to release it globally, then they want to take a long look at themselves....
(i'm guessing amazon.jp isn't particularly user-friendly for geordies...)
testudo
06-28-2010, 12:30 PM
I've ordered tons of stuff from amazon japan, not to hard (you can switch the language to English on the home page)
I would look to this as well:
http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/
If Amazon isn't your thing, try these:
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857043
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857045
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857044
hypeless
06-28-2010, 03:11 PM
I've ordered tons of stuff from amazon japan, not to hard (you can switch the language to English on the home page)
I would look to this as well:
http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/
If Amazon isn't your thing, try these:
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857043
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857045
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857044
I've definitely ordered from hmv.co.jp to Seattle, and been happy. You definitely gotta pay your dues for shipping, but you get the stuff.
Troy McClure
06-28-2010, 04:25 PM
I ordered the Oblivion Ball Live CD through hmv.co.jp and it was delivered really quick actually. Was pleasantly surprised. The shipping is high, so depends on how much you want it.
Jason
Badger
06-29-2010, 01:33 AM
So on the 2 CD + DVD set..what's on the second CD?
Anyone know?
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857045
I've got loads of stuff from HMV Japan and their delivery to here in Australia is amazingly fast.
//\/\/
06-29-2010, 02:11 AM
depends on how much you want it.
that certainly shouldn't be an issue, surely?
crank
06-29-2010, 08:32 AM
sure would be nice to have some official confirmation that the worldwide release will be a 2CD affair plus a DVD?
testudo
06-30-2010, 11:29 AM
sure would be nice to have some official confirmation that the worldwide release will be a 2CD affair plus a DVD?
I wouldn't hold your breath.
ultradave
06-30-2010, 04:51 PM
Amazon Japan has 3 releases, Barking Box, cd+dvd, and cd...
Hmmm..., anyone making any trips to Japan anytime soon??? :rolleyes:
Dirty0900
07-01-2010, 08:42 AM
A rough translation of the album provides a clue of the album tracks sounds.
http://www.iloud.jp/special/underworldbarking_1.php
Champiness
07-01-2010, 09:17 AM
The "rough translation" in question:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iloud.jp%2Fspecial%2F underworldbarking_1.php&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
So, to summarize:
1. Bird 1: Hard to tell from this whether or not it's Strumpet, but it's definitely hypnotic.
2. ALAF: The description fits the footage of the new version we've seen on YouTube, but it's let on here that the strings remain! Yes!
3. Scribble: It's compared here to NUXX, which I think is a good comparison in that both of them overshadowed phenomenal Underworld tracks with driving beats.
4. Hamburg Hotel: It's mostly instrumental (Karl's vocals are heavily processed where they do appear) and resembles an OWB track. It may be one of those moments of ambience some of you anticipated.
5. Grace: Surprisingly, considering the title, this is apparently a dark track! Odd.
6. Between Stars: Described here as the third real "dancefloor killer" on the album. Perhaps this means it'll be the third single?
7. Diamond Jigsaw: Kind of hard to make out, but it seems to say that Paul van Dyk didn't do much to the song and left UW to do most of it themselves.
8. Moon In Water: It's not Drum & Bass! I'm shocked! But also somewhat relieved. Thinking about it now I can't really see it as a Drum & Bass track. But it's still going to be very danceable: it says here that it's disco-influenced.
9. Louisiana: It won't be a "Moaner"-esque nightmare. It's a piano-led ballad, and (this is the interesting part!) apparently resembles "Minneapolis". Speculate!
purlieu
07-01-2010, 10:28 AM
Now that review (what I could make of it) makes it sound a bit more appealing to me!
//\/\/
07-01-2010, 10:33 AM
This is just a little get-processed vocals
(funny for geordies!)
BufoBufo
07-01-2010, 10:54 AM
(funny for geordies!)
Played over a stitch-that drum beat ;)
TheBang
07-01-2010, 11:39 AM
I forget, was iLoud the one with the early OwB review too?
potatobroth
07-01-2010, 12:01 PM
Scribble is nothing like NUXX. How could anyone even make that comparisson?
Champiness
07-01-2010, 01:08 PM
Scribble is nothing like NUXX. How could anyone even make that comparisson?
Maybe because that's the most that the majority of people know from them?
stauff
07-01-2010, 04:41 PM
Ok, google translate sucks and I'm sick at home with a cold, so what better project for the day than to translate that review. Here's the first bit.. Enjoy.
I'm not sure everything said is entirely accurate, but I translated it as-is, so don't blame me for inaccuracies in what they say.. blame me for poor translation :)
----
On 1st June, Underworld opened a public Japanese twitter. Things are really heating up as we head towards the new album, "Barking". With the ban on reviews lifted, iLOUD's chief editors Hirada and Tanigami attended a listening party, and we bring you their review in the form of a conversation.
[Name readings randomly chosen. Names are abbreviated in the conversation so I'll call them H and T]
H: First up, the most surprising thing for me was that tracks 7 and 9 are more like "songs".
T: Yeah. Most of the tracks have singing from Karl. On that point, you could say that the whole thing has a "new wave"-ish feel to it.
H: Up till now the only times we've had singing from Karl like this was the so called "Mk 1" (before Daren Emmerson joined).. since then we haven't seen it.
T: Well, there's been singing on the albums, but it would only be like 1-2 tracks per album. Another big thing on this album was that out of 9 tracks, 8 have an external producer joining in.
H: This also surprised me. The feel of the tracks varies with the producers' "colour", which makes it overflow with variety, and before you know it you've listened to the whole album!
T: That said, all the producers are from the club scene, so it makes the dance flavour of the album that much deeper.
H: Yeah. To put it simply, Barking is singing you can dance to.. an Underworld album unlike those before. So, let's take a look at it track-by-track.
01. Bird 1
H: A tech house tune with producer Dubfire.
T: Unlike the Deep Dish days, Dubfire's become quite a tech/minimal person recently. He's also friends with Richie Hawtin.
H: Maybe because of that this track has a really light feel, and I'm really into Karl's vocals. The harmonies are also lovely. At its high point, there's some slightly trancy synth brass also coming out.
T: It's got a slightly exciting feeling of "ooh, this is a little bit different to Underworld up till now".
02. Always Loved A Film
H: Mark Knight and D.Ramirez from Toolroom Records join in. Tech house that gradually gets going.
T: Karl's vocals are perfectly added.. the guitar and piano and strings are all there.. it's "pop" in a good way. It's got some catchy elements, so probably one of the killer tunes from Barking.
H: It's likely to do well at Big Box [Name of a club in Tokyo], so it's sure to be a hit from the dance floors.
03. Scribble
H: Already public.. the drum&bass collaboration with High Contrast from the Hospital label.
T: When I first heard it, I was a little surprised. But going back to it, Underworld have been doing great break beats from way back. Born Slippy was also an original "upper" style of break-beat track. Scribble's a really happy feeling track, I just want to listen to it over and over.
H: This track has been around in its original form for quite a while, and was played quite a bit live, but I think this takes that original and completes it in a kind of pop way.
04. Hamburg Hotel
H: A collaboration track with Dub-step producers Appleblim and Al Tourettes.
T: This has a bit of processed vocals included, but they're installed very basically [?? not really sure what he's saying here..]. It's a track that feels like a continuation of the last album, Oblivion With Bells.
H: I love the "gamelan" sort of minimal sequenced sound. Karl also loves Skull Disco etc.
05. Grace
H: Dubfire was also in on this one.
T: Although, it's not a really techno feel, sorta dark..
H: An 8 minute ride with a new-wave tone. The vocals are like a previous Brian Ferry.
06. Between Stars
H: A tech house collaboration with Mark Knight and D.Ramirez. It's already made its debut live.
T: Without being too earnest, it comes on bit-by-bit. It's a hands-up floor-killer [not a typo, but floor killer really doesn't translate well as-is.. maybe think floor-filler]. Like "Always Loved A Film" and "Scribble", it's sure really to get going live.
H: The strings are also great.
07. Diamond Jigsaw
H: Collaboration with Paul Van Dyk.. this is a surprising track.
T: This really was a surprise. Although for anyone who's followed underworld since the 90s, maybe not such a surprise. They've had contact with Sven Vath before, but not PVD. That said, it's not the typical "German Trance". It's got some rocking guitar in there.
H: In recent years PVD's been doing trance with pop/rock vocals, and group vocal tunes, so it's kinda at that end of things. The arpeggio at the peak is quite trancy though..
08. Moon In Water
H: A collaboration with High Contrast, but this is not drum and bass.
T: Sort of disco-like taste to the groove in the way this track is made.
H: The female voice with poetry is through the whole track. Within the album it's quite a different feel.
09. Louisiana
H: This is not a collaboration, it's pure Underworld piano-ballad sorta track.
T: It's a bit like a Robert Wyatt sort of track. Actually there was a track from right at the beginning of the Mk2 era called Minneapolis. It's almost like a continuation of that.
H: Anyway, it makes a great closing to the album.
Dunwho
07-01-2010, 09:45 PM
Ok, google translate sucks and I'm sick at home with a cold, so what better project for the day than to translate that review. Here's the first bit.. Enjoy.
H: Anyway, it makes a great closing to the album.
Thank you so much for that! Getting very interested now
Dirty0900
07-02-2010, 02:12 AM
I wonder if they ditched the computer vocals in Moon in Water for Juanita.
bryantm3
07-02-2010, 03:22 AM
that's odd they mention 'minneapolis' as a piano ballad, it's along the same lines as spikee and bigmouth. perhaps they meant mother earth, or tongue?
TheBang
07-02-2010, 03:57 AM
I wonder if they ditched the computer vocals in Moon in Water for Juanita.
I bet it's more likely they've confused Vicki for Juanita.
BrotherLovesDub
07-02-2010, 10:20 AM
Louisiana is the song they titled Jumping the Cran on the lemonworld broadcast. Sounds nothing at all like Minneapolis.
34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
07-02-2010, 10:42 AM
Exciting, but honestly, don't trust anything the google translator says :)
testudo
07-02-2010, 11:07 AM
Louisiana is the song they titled Jumping the Cran on the lemonworld broadcast. Sounds nothing at all like Minneapolis.
HOW DO YOU KNOW>?
potatobroth
07-02-2010, 11:32 AM
Maybe because that's the most that the majority of people know from them?
ah, the re-translation makes it seem like they were referring to BS Original, and not NUXX. THAT comparisson I can see.
holden
07-02-2010, 01:21 PM
We shall hear.
Writing about music is....well, you know.
I don't care much for what some person i've never met thinks of the new record. I'll make my own impression. In the meantime, eager anticipation.
Champiness
07-02-2010, 05:17 PM
Louisiana is the song they titled Jumping the Cran on the lemonworld broadcast. Sounds nothing at all like Minneapolis.
What leads you to say this?
stimpee
07-03-2010, 02:40 AM
What leads you to say this?HOW DO YOU KNOW>?A source who has the album identified it.
testudo
07-03-2010, 04:29 AM
A source who has the album identified it.
hmmm... I feel the same feeling when OWB was not released: 99% of the board has it, but not me. :(
I always disliked the side conversations/gossip and certain facades of this board. :confused:
stimpee
07-03-2010, 05:40 AM
hmmm... I feel the same feeling when OWB was not released: 99% of the board has it, but not me. :(
I always disliked the side conversations/gossip and certain facades of this board. :confused:I dont have it and only know one person who does have it, and he's not sharing (and rightly so). I'm as in the dark as to what it sounds like. When and if it leaks you'll find a copy im sure. If they dont announce the special euro editions soon im gonna have to pre-order the japanese version.
BrotherLovesDub
07-03-2010, 06:22 AM
I don't have it and I haven't heard it but the one line of lyrics I was told was on it matches Jumping the Cran.
Dirty0900
07-03-2010, 12:28 PM
I dont have it and only know one person who does have it, and he's not sharing (and rightly so). I'm as in the dark as to what it sounds like. When and if it leaks you'll find a copy im sure. If they dont announce the special euro editions soon im gonna have to pre-order the japanese version.
Yer, Japanese Edition looking positive until something gets announced, till then I'll d/l the leak and then upload a better quality copy.
Spooky Shoes
07-04-2010, 09:26 AM
So on the 2 CD + DVD set..what's on the second CD?
Anyone know?
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3857045
I've got loads of stuff from HMV Japan and their delivery to here in Australia is amazingly fast.
No idea, but I ordered it anyway, can always cancel/re-order a different flavour when more info is available.
Hope I don't get stung for duty again this time, cost more than the friggin' CD last time.
//\/\/
07-04-2010, 03:39 PM
so, to summarise feeling;
dear underworld. please don't forget The Rest Of The World Outside Of Your Native Japan and force fans to jump through expensive hoops for stuff. again. it only makes the shady download option look more attractive.
Dirty0900
07-04-2010, 05:43 PM
I'm gonna say that bonus CD is full of rough versions of tracks? ALAF version 2 etc...
Champiness
07-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Don't we all hope so.
Studio YDS please!!
Yeah, perhaps cd2 will be filled with amazing new fresh cuts of material that we have never heard before..... like Bampoo :rolleyes:
stimpee
07-05-2010, 02:02 AM
so, to summarise feeling;
dear underworld. please don't forget The Rest Of The World Outside Of Your Native Japan and force fans to jump through expensive hoops for stuff. again. it only makes the shady download option look more attractive.Except for the extra track, the japanese versions were the same as the RotW. Hardly justifies the shady download option. Though I'm sure many fans downloaded the Japanese version of the album just to get the extra track having already bought the CD/DVD. Not sure what the Barking Box will be though, or if thats Japan-only. What irks me is that Loads of Birds is still a japan-only track, and that the JAL to Tokyo EP is also still Japan-only. Even the Bruce Lee (Buffalo Daughter remix) is still Japan-only and that was released over 10 years ago.
Spooky Shoes
07-05-2010, 03:38 AM
Found this by searching for the Cat No, roughly translated...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=PCDT24&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=TQi&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&ei=maIxTKmnN8WOjAeY_9mWBg&start=10&sa=N
«Underworld» long-awaited new album, released ahead of Japan. こちらは 36Pブックレットをセットした豪華BOXに、Remixやインストを収録したボーナスディスク、さらにD VDを収めた2CD+DVD+ブックレット付き 超豪華初回限定仕様!※「デラックスエディション」と「初回豪華盤」のDVDの内容は異なりま す。
This is a booklet 36P BOX set in gorgeous, Remix and a bonus disc that included the installation, even containing a DVD Limited Edition 2CD + DVD + Super deluxe booklet! ※ "Deluxe Edition" and "luxury first board" of the DVD what is different.Another translation has the contents of the DVD as different.
So looks like a remix CD, 36 page booklet and DVD possibly with different content to the other edition.
Fishtank
07-05-2010, 06:56 AM
Appleblim colab should be interesting
ThingInABook
07-05-2010, 07:06 AM
japanese version=DO WANT
let's see where it pops out. sadly, everytime i want to purchase a japanese u/w album here, the price raises to 100dollars! 40bucks is still payeable in any sense, but i'm afraid its price will rise on ebay...
if someone can point me to a reliable presale...
Andrea
07-05-2010, 10:40 AM
paying 100 dollars is not a big deal if you really want something
to never get it delivered is much worse
I´m still waiting for two live recordings from "Live Here Now" that I ordered 2008
TheBang
07-05-2010, 07:27 PM
When it comes to purchasing Japanese albums, it's useful to know that Japan has some weird price controls whereby for the first 2 years of an album's life, the price is fixed, so it's doesn't matter where you buy it from; the price is going to be the same everywhere.
The only differentiation (especially for overseas purchases) is shipping costs and customer service.
So, with that said, several of us (myself included) have had very good experiences over the years ordering from hmv.co.jp. I've found their shipping costs to be reasonable, their shipping speed fast, and their site easy to navigate in English.
Amazon.co.jp is another reputable option, of course.
//\/\/
07-06-2010, 03:24 AM
my issue isn't how easy it is or isn't to get stuff from hmv.jp - it's that we have to do it in the first place.
bang on all they like about about romford and essex - i live 2 miles from fucking essex, yet have to wait and pay extra for exclusive stuff to come from tokyo?
i'm hoping this won't prove to be the case and that uw do give a toss about fans beyond japan. but on past behaviour...
big screen satellite
07-06-2010, 03:58 AM
i'm with ian on this one
music should be shared and available to all, not just to japanese fans who ONLY buy stuff if it contains exclusive stuff...
the rest of the world copes ok buying cd's without exclusive tracks what makes japan so special that the standard release is NOT good enough for them... its not a slight on the japanese, just the system thats been created that demands bands make content especially for them... its not uw's fault either really, but in this digital age - its not so hard to make things available to all - then no one is MORE special than anyone else
ThingInABook
07-06-2010, 06:15 AM
i also share the same opinion as the two posters above. i love buying records and i've already bought expensive special editions from other bands. with OwB i really wanted the japanese edition, but the price (U$100) was way beyond the real list price, specially if it was just for some extra content. no big boxes, posters, books, vinyl and cd records or whatever else special editions have. just a couple cds in a regular box. i really liked how athens came packaged and the print, and how easy it was to get. it's kind of unfair, specially for fans who live far from countries that will get a official release. most of us rely on the international catalogs from our local record stores.
or ebay.
TheBang
07-06-2010, 12:22 PM
I think you guys are barking (ahem) up the wrong tree. UW didn't invent the Japanese bonus track. Again, that's an artifact of the artificial album price controls in Japan. Because those price controls tend to make the album releases in Japan higher even than imports from another region (say, the US), the Japanese labels/distributors often insist on some type of exclusive bonus in order to try to keep people from buying cheaper imports.
You can read more about this phenomenon in the Debbie Gibson FAQ (http://stason.org/TULARC/music-bands/debbie-gibson/3-4-Why-Japanese-only-Bonus-tracks-Debbie-Gibson.html) :D
So you'll just have to accept that Japanese bonus tracks exist. That aside, regarding the editions (Regular/Deluxe/Limited), we don't know yet whether or not all the different editions will be available worldwide, so it's a bit premature to get panties bunched over that, eh?
//\/\/
07-06-2010, 02:41 PM
So you'll just have to accept that Japanese bonus tracks exist.
don't think you've made a strong enough argument for that
That aside, regarding the editions (Regular/Deluxe/Limited), we don't know yet whether or not all the different editions will be available worldwide, so it's a bit premature to get panties bunched over that, eh?
oh, absolutey!
stimpee
07-06-2010, 02:50 PM
so it's a bit premature to get panties bunched over that, eh?AFAIK ian doesnt wear any panties.
//\/\/
07-06-2010, 02:58 PM
AFAIK ian doesnt wear any panties.
you promised that would be our secret :eek::(
Strawman
07-11-2010, 10:32 PM
We shall hear.
Writing about music is....well, you know.
I don't care much for what some person i've never met thinks of the new record. I'll make my own impression. In the meantime, eager anticipation.
Yes totally agree - it's difficult to write about music and to me it's always the way it makes you feel that gets me.....the review was interesting to read but it doesn't tell me what it really sounds like......and while I'm at it - how can you compare Scribble to Born Slippy!!!
stauff
07-12-2010, 02:29 AM
Maybe it was mentioned before and I missed it, but according to trafficjpn (http://trafficjpn.com/news/show/438), the Japanese bonus track is Simple Peal, and the Deluxe Edition DVD contents are:
1. Bird 1 - Directed by Dylan Kendle
2. Always Loved A Film - Directed by Graham Wood
3. Scribble - Directed by Toby Vogel
4. Hamburg Hotel - Directed by Dylan Kendle
5. Grace - Directed by Jason Kedgley
6. Between Stars - Directed by Michael Horsham
7. Diamond Jigsaw - Directed by Simon Taylor & Hudson-Powell
8. Moon In Water - Directed by Timothy Bricknell
9. Louisiana - Directed by Toby Vogel & Danielle Short
Danielle's directing now? Look forward to it :)
- Matthew
Dino3D
07-12-2010, 03:21 AM
Maybe it was mentioned before and I missed it, but according to trafficjpn (http://trafficjpn.com/news/show/438), the Japanese bonus track is Simple Peal, and the Deluxe Edition DVD contents are:
1. Bird 1 - Directed by Dylan Kendle
2. Always Loved A Film - Directed by Graham Wood
3. Scribble - Directed by Toby Vogel
4. Hamburg Hotel - Directed by Dylan Kendle
5. Grace - Directed by Jason Kedgley
6. Between Stars - Directed by Michael Horsham
7. Diamond Jigsaw - Directed by Simon Taylor & Hudson-Powell
8. Moon In Water - Directed by Timothy Bricknell
9. Louisiana - Directed by Toby Vogel & Danielle Short
Danielle's directing now? Look forward to it :)
- Matthew
So it's the same conception like CB's Further DVD with visuals for each track.
TheBang
07-12-2010, 03:54 AM
Mmm, excited for the DVD then. Nice to see Graham back again and Tomato getting all up in it. Now we just need to find out what's in the Limited Edition.
These are Dylan and Michael Horsham's first videos for Underworld, I believe?
crank
07-12-2010, 07:39 AM
have you heard of this new technology out there? it's called a BLU Ray or something... it's what the DVD technology will move to in the future. it's a High Definition format- it's even clearer than DVD if you can believe that!
lectoid
07-12-2010, 07:49 AM
have you heard of this new technology out there? it's called a BLU Ray or something... it's what the DVD technology will move to in the future. it's a High Definition format- it's even clearer than DVD if you can believe that!
Pfft... I'll take my bonus video on Betamax please.
Hang on.... lets wait to see if the CD ends up on record store's shelves before we start talking formats ;)
big screen satellite
07-12-2010, 08:55 AM
Hang on.... lets wait to see if the CD ends up on record store's shelves before we start talking formats ;)
record stores - try finding records in stores these days.... ;)
BLU RAY please, with a digital and dvd copy, thats how Disney do it ;)
plus exclusive fold out packaging...
and in 3D too
ThingInABook
07-12-2010, 09:07 AM
and in 3D too
the last time i saw a movie in 3D was... captain EO in epcot center, when i was 12 :(
comeon u/w...
Dirty0900
07-12-2010, 11:02 AM
Do Japanese releases play in UK DVD players?
Spooky Shoes
07-12-2010, 01:02 PM
Maybe it was mentioned before and I missed it, but according to trafficjpn (http://trafficjpn.com/news/show/438), the Japanese bonus track is Simple Peal, and the Deluxe Edition DVD contents are:
1. Bird 1 - Directed by Dylan Kendle
2. Always Loved A Film - Directed by Graham Wood
3. Scribble - Directed by Toby Vogel
4. Hamburg Hotel - Directed by Dylan Kendle
5. Grace - Directed by Jason Kedgley
6. Between Stars - Directed by Michael Horsham
7. Diamond Jigsaw - Directed by Simon Taylor & Hudson-Powell
8. Moon In Water - Directed by Timothy Bricknell
9. Louisiana - Directed by Toby Vogel & Danielle Short
Danielle's directing now? Look forward to it :)
- Matthew
Some of the listings that I have seen seem to suggest that the DVD for the LTD ED has different content. Not been able to confirm yet.
Do Japanese releases play in UK DVD players?
The UK standard is PAL, the Japanese standard is NTSC, it depends on your DVD player, whether or not it is "multi-region". A computer shouldn't have any problems and it is possible to convert NTSC to PAL.
TheBang
07-12-2010, 04:48 PM
Just FYI, the Oblivion with Bells DVD was region-coded. However, The Bells The Bells DVD was not.
Spooky Shoes
07-12-2010, 05:08 PM
The Bells The Bells DVD is in the NTSC format, so if you can play that you should be good.
Champiness
07-12-2010, 06:31 PM
So it's the same conception like CB's Further DVD with visuals for each track.
Excuse my language...
But DAMN.
bryantm3
07-13-2010, 01:24 AM
all this 3d tv garbage... i really see it as a really bad marketing move by TV companies. nobody's going to go for it, it's simply too impractical to have to wear glasses everytime you want to watch TV. it's neat when you're in a movie theater, as a novelty, but who really wants to see the daily show in 3d?
testudo
07-13-2010, 03:03 AM
yeh 3D tv will fail.
but back on topic the super furries were the first to put out an album with dvd that had a video for each song, right?
Spooky Shoes
07-13-2010, 04:53 AM
but back on topic the super furries were the first to put out an album with dvd that had a video for each song, right?
Rings Around the World? Possibly the first in that combination but certainly not the first album to have videos for each track (not including live stuffs/greatest hits comps, ect..).
patrick
07-13-2010, 07:36 AM
all this 3d tv garbage... i really see it as a really bad marketing move by TV companies. nobody's going to go for it, it's simply too impractical to have to wear glasses everytime you want to watch TV. it's neat when you're in a movie theater, as a novelty, but who really wants to see the daily show in 3d?
Eventually you won't need glasses:
Auto-stereoscopic (gizmodo) (http://gizmodo.com/5057832/philips-3d-autostereoscopic-tv-requires-no-glasses-is-gentle-on-the-eyes)
These will be necessary for 3d to make it into the main-stream ( plus GOOD 3d generation for non-animated shows )
TheBang
07-13-2010, 02:01 PM
Final(?) cover art:
http://images.play.com/covers/15798306x.jpg
preliminary art (http://www.underworldlive.com/Diaries/DiaryImages/100504-barking-600.jpg)
Dirty0900
07-13-2010, 02:50 PM
Bright to say the least.
Dino3D
07-14-2010, 02:35 AM
I like the first cover more. It's more neonish. The new cover is a bit too much of everything.
super-saint
07-14-2010, 02:42 AM
all this 3d tv garbage... i really see it as a really bad marketing move by TV companies. nobody's going to go for it, it's simply too impractical to have to wear glasses everytime you want to watch TV. it's neat when you're in a movie theater, as a novelty, but who really wants to see the daily show in 3d?
I assume you have not seen a 3D TV performing ? I indeed was scepitcal but having seen one I was blown away with the performance. What was the point of watching football in 3D I thought - well having seen a demo I can tell you the quality is outstanding
BUT the point is everything wont be in 3d anyway....like you be watching Eastenders in 3d ! It will purely be for ceratin events ie movies, sport etc etc & todays 3D TV's do both at the same time with excellent results
Final(?) cover art:
http://images.play.com/covers/15798306x.jpg
preliminary art (http://www.underworldlive.com/Diaries/DiaryImages/100504-barking-600.jpg)
I hate them both.
unwound floors
07-14-2010, 05:06 AM
They both kind of look like someone threw up all over MS Paint.
In a good way, I guess?
potatobroth
07-14-2010, 07:24 AM
I hate them both.
I dislike them both. But then again, nothing will EVER top STITI's cover -- with Dubno a close second.
Dino3D
07-14-2010, 08:27 AM
I dislike them both. But then again, nothing will EVER top STITI's cover -- with Dubno a close second.
My fav is 100 days off's cover and Barking's.
potatobroth
07-14-2010, 08:58 AM
My fav is 100 days off's cover and Barking's.
That's my least favorite suite of covers, with Barking's a close second. :P
Gotta love varying tastes! At least we both love the music ;)
testudo
07-14-2010, 09:17 AM
Questions the Japan Barking Box vs. the limited edition UK box?
Is the only difference the bonus track?
and/or does the japan Barking box not include the 12" vinyl?
Guesses and ideas welcome.
Spooky Shoes
07-14-2010, 11:04 AM
The vinyl is a separate issue to both the UK and JP boxes.
I'd expect that the difference in the LTD ED's will be the bonus track and the Deluxe may have different content on the DVD.
testudo
07-14-2010, 01:49 PM
Does anyone else wish the cover of the new album was this?
http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/images/new_logo.png
I sure do!
potatobroth
07-14-2010, 01:51 PM
Does anyone else wish the cover of the new album was this?
http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/images/new_logo.png
I sure do!
yes!
testudo
07-14-2010, 02:09 PM
yes!
wait a sec... you just said that Barking was your 2nd fav cover :confused:
TheBang
07-14-2010, 02:42 PM
Does anyone else wish the cover of the new album was this?
http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/images/new_logo.png
I sure do!
I think that is on the back of the album.
Lx_Nen
07-14-2010, 03:08 PM
Hmm....while I like it a lot, it is very similar to recent Pet Shop Boys covers.
dubnobasswithme
07-14-2010, 05:22 PM
Hmm....while I like it a lot, it is very similar to recent Pet Shop Boys covers.
EXACTLY what i was thinking as well ;)
whatmakesustick
07-15-2010, 01:31 AM
The vinyl is a separate issue to both the UK and JP boxes.
I'd expect that the difference in the LTD ED's will be the bonus track and the Deluxe may have different content on the DVD.
yeah, I suspect this will be the case and we'll have to purchase Japanese edition box to get the "uber-complete" edition!! unless uwlive make a small number of the Japanese edition box set available (similar to what they did with The Bells).....
bryantm3
07-15-2010, 01:55 AM
as far as album covers go... that's not why i listen to the music. dubno's album cover is the only one i really love, on my cassette tape copy where the inside is totally blank and matte paper like a normal cassette but then you notice the microscopic writing all over the inside. i guess dubno and stiti were the only albums that didn't have 'consistent' covers, like depending on what edition you got, cassette, vinyl, cd, etc. you got different artwork. as far as i know the others past that had nearly identical artwork.
khouri
07-15-2010, 03:18 AM
i guess dubno and stiti were the only albums that didn't have 'consistent' covers, like depending on what edition you got, cassette, vinyl, cd, etc. you got different artwork. as far as i know the others past that had nearly identical artwork.
Pretty sure Beaucoup Fish had different artwork for every format, too. They were all blue but I think the vinyl, cassette, CD and minidisc had different geomatic shapes.
TheBang
07-15-2010, 03:50 AM
Here are the supposed details on the 3-disc Limited Edition (http://www.yes24.com/24/goods/3995097) (found by BSS).
Also, here's a not-as-blurry cover art picture (the lower-left smiley is a watermark, not part of the artwork):
http://image.yes24.com/goods/3995097/L
CD 1
01. Bird 1
02. Always Loved A Film
03. Scribble
04. Hamburg Hotel
05. Grace
06. Between Stars
07. Diamond Jigsaw
08. Moon In Water
09. Louisiana
DVD
01. Bird 1 (Dylan Kendle, tomato)
02. Always Loved A Film (Michael Horsham, tomato)
03. Always Loved A Film (Graham Wood & John Hollis)
04. Scribble (Toby Vogel)
05. Hamburg Hotel (Dylan Kendle, tomato)
06. Grace (Jason Kedgley, tomato)
07. Between Stars (J. Kedgley & Dylan Kendle, tomato)
08. Between Stars (Dirk van Dooran, tomato)
09. Diamond Jigsaw (Simon Taylor, tomato)
10. Moon In Water (Timothy Bricknell)
11. Louisiana (Simon Taylor, tomato)
CD 2 : Alt Versions, Work in Progress & Demos
01. Bird 1 - version (title TBC)
02. Always Loved A Film - version (title TBC)
03. Scribble - version (title TBC)
04. Hamburg Hotel - version (title TBC)
05. Grace - version (title TBC)
06. Between Stars - version (title TBC)
07. Diamond Jigsaw - version (title TBC)
08. Moon In Water - version (title TBC)
09. Louisiana - version (title TBC)
testudo
07-15-2010, 04:07 AM
Here are the supposed details on the 3-disc Limited Edition (http://www.yes24.com/24/goods/3995097) (found by BSS).
CD 2 : Alt Versions, Work in Progress & Demos
01. Bird 1 - version (title TBC)
02. Always Loved A Film - version (title TBC)
03. Scribble - version (title TBC)
04. Hamburg Hotel - version (title TBC)
05. Grace - version (title TBC)
06. Between Stars - version (title TBC)
07. Diamond Jigsaw - version (title TBC)
08. Moon In Water - version (title TBC)
09. Louisiana - version (title TBC)
DID I CALL THIS OR WHAT>>> I KNEW IT, BARKING 2 Origins:
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showthread.php?t=10979
Spooky Shoes
07-15-2010, 05:26 AM
Here are the supposed details on the 3-disc Limited Edition (http://www.yes24.com/24/goods/3995097) (found by BSS).
Assuming that is the UK edition as there is no bonus track listed?
TheBang
07-15-2010, 05:45 AM
Assuming that is the UK edition as there is no bonus track listed?
The "non-Japan" edition, yes, I would assume so.
ThingInABook
07-15-2010, 06:09 AM
ARGH DO WANT SPECIAL EDITION
anyone has a korean currency converter...?
Spooky Shoes
07-15-2010, 06:29 AM
The "non-Japan" edition, yes, I would assume so.
Oh well pre-ordered that too, I'll probably order the CD -DVD version tomorrow as well, lol. I figure I can always cancel any surplus orders when more details are available as my account won't be debited until they ship.
testudo
07-15-2010, 08:21 AM
All versions up on Amazon.co.uk:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...1.74_66&fsc=-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=barking+underworld&x=0&y=0&ih=5_6_3_3_0_0_0_0_1_1.74_66&fsc=-1)
and for those in Australia:
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/dance/barking-super-deluxe-version/530998
potatobroth
07-15-2010, 10:56 AM
soooo. confused.
Options:
Barking
Barking Deluxe + DVD
Barking Super Deluxe Box Set + DVD
Contains?
CD - 9 tracks?
CD + 11 Videos?
CD + 11 Videos + 9 Diff Versions of Tracks?
Dirty0900
07-15-2010, 10:57 AM
There are 2 videos of Scribble and one of another I assume, probably another single.
gaborez
07-15-2010, 11:50 AM
according to BSS in another thread, we get 2 vids of ALAF and Between Stars :)
I've just pre-ordered the super deluxe double-cd plus DVD option from amazon...
New album & gigs... Autumn ain't gonna be too bad :)
Spooky Shoes
07-15-2010, 12:00 PM
There are 2 videos of Scribble and one of another I assume, probably another single.
On of the Japanese sites I looked at stated the album included the advanced single "Always Loved A Film"...
stimpee
07-15-2010, 01:34 PM
I'm gagging on the price at Amazon a little here. 11.99gbp for CD+DVD. 35.99gbp for CD+DVD+ cd of demos (in a box). DO rick & karl come over and perform them for you too?
darktrain
07-15-2010, 01:36 PM
Anyone know which label is handling the US release?
Champiness
07-15-2010, 01:40 PM
First off:
Woo! "Versions" of every track! Which probably means studio versions of YDS and all the live precedents of album tracks!
Secondly:
I think there's two versions of song that will be singles: one to be used in the "film" and one for airplay. Which bodes well for the likelihood of a "Between Stars" single - not that Underworld have been stingy with the single releases from the very beginning.
TheBang
07-15-2010, 02:18 PM
Anyone know which label is handling the US release?
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