Diamond Jigsaw

[sandston]

Its amazing that there are 60 or so video clips from Italy of Born Slippy and what appears to be just one very poorly recorded vid of what we are calling Diamond Jigsaw. From what I can glean from it this is going to be huge. There has to be a better longer clip of it out there. I want more

[Champiness]

Link? I'd like to prepare myself for when I can listen to it properly.

[TheBang]

Yeah, that's pretty much how it always is. A thousand video clips of Born Slippy and a smattering of other songs.

[undarrenworld]

Diamond Jigsaw make me very happy, its beautiful song:) Underworld are masters:)

[stimpee]

Link? I'd like to prepare myself for when I can listen to it properly.See the moments forum for the Torino gig youtubes.

[testudo]

yeh, a one minute long clip and super bassed out... we NEED a better quality clip! UWLIVE please post a better live vid!

[phaseblue]

Is this it? If it is, it sounds very nice indeed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0IVjXqgbMQ

Can`t wait to hear more!

[TheBang]

Actually, that one's "Between Stars".

This is the one we're pretty sure is "Diamond Jigsaw":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM3Z2AKh4Xk

[phaseblue]

Thanks Todd!

They`ve been introducing so much new material lately, it`s hard for me to keep up with
it all!

Pretty awesome stuff!

[qirex]

Actually, that one's "Between Stars".

This is the one we're pretty sure is "Diamond Jigsaw":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM3Z2AKh4Xk


I can't wait for high quality versions of those 2 songs

[TheBang]

I can't wait for high quality versions of those 2 songs

Then get out your tape recorders for Aug. 7.

[testudo]

Then get out your tape recorders for Aug. 7.

"OH YES OH YES PLEASE"

[TheBang]

OK, so I didn't put this up last night, because I thought for sure they would play Diamond Jigsaw tonight on the broadcast and everyone would hear it. Well, they didn't, so here is Diamond Jigsaw from Vegas. Enjoy!

http://www.bangerter.org/todd/underworld/lvdiamondjigsaw.mp3

Karl plays guitar on this song. You can hear him come in on the second repeat of the synth line at the beginning. I think they had some problems with the song, so the intro is actually a lot longer than it would normally be.

[testudo]

OK, so I didn't put this up last night, because I thought for sure they would play Diamond Jigsaw tonight on the broadcast and everyone would hear it. Well, they didn't, so here is Diamond Jigsaw from Vegas. Enjoy!

Thank you so much!:D I was very sad that they didn't play DJ!

This track should be released whenever the boys are happy with it... it could be a Born Slippy phenomena!

Single release, never released on an album style of BS!

And here is the perfect cover for the single: http://www.underworldlive.com/home/090806/mainColumnParagraphs/0/content_files/file2/090806d.jpg

I think the energy on the bad/distorted live recording in Torino of DJ has something really special!

I hope we get another live copy of it -hint-hint! :D

[holden]

Well, hmm, i don't know...

Excited as i am to hear new UW material (thx TB for the quality recording!), i'm just not feeling this one. It seems, well, dated. It could have been on Underneath the Radar or Change the Weather. There are some beautiful and interesting elements, but the song structure and upbeat main hook seems rather "synthpop", and not the UW we've been used to since Dubno (sure, there are a few pop-ish tracks from that album and the proto version, but not the lion's share). Maybe it's a nostalgia sort of track? Going back to where things started?

Maybe in a few more listens, this will warm me up.

[scary man]

This is such a fucking tune, man.

Reminds me of Prince's 'I Wanna Be Your Lover' for some reason.

Blinding. Let's 'ave the new album, please?

[smagdali]

What the *fuck* is that?

I mean, I quite like it, but somehow that just feels wrong. It's like a song, not a tune.

I wonder if they'll put it out as a 7"? maybe the B-side for Between Stars

[Dirty0900]

I wasn't feeling it at first, but now I like it. Though this is only a fan recording so there may be multiple changes to it.

[Andrea]

The intro is pretty good until the "peep" sound disappears and that horrible synth starts not to mention the singing.

Dated? .....ha..ha..coudn´t say it better. They did something similar with Between the stars latest.
Multiple changes? ....Ok guys is this a joke or something?

[Champiness]

The song certainly sounds like a pre-Dubno release in some ways (certainly lyrically). But it's so much better than anything they were even capable of making then, which isn't all that surprising. It's so uplifting and the lyrics are still the cut-and-paste masterpieces we all love.

Speaking of which, here's my best stab at the lyrics:

Does it hurt
That you finally found yourself
And does it hurt
That you crawled out of your shell
Black carpet from my mood
Come let me shine
Lonely sweet love come on you
Give me your time
Don't look at me like a tourist
The dark sky (?)
Outside alone and all the signs
Alone and all the signs
Alone and

Does it help
That you finally found yourself
And does it help
That you crawled out of your shelf
I wanna wake up in a better place
Take me in your care
Lonely and *cough* horny in the dark
There's someone there
And there's a white stretch limo parked out
A single line
Premium tequila
Diamond jigsaw makes me feel fine

Does it help
That you finally found yourself
And does it help
That you crawled out of your shell
Can you hear me can you hear me calling
When the moon is on
I wanna feel I wanna feel surrounded
Lying in the dark
And there's a white stretch limo parked out
A single line
Premium tequila
Diamond jigsaw makes me feel fine

Does it help
And does it help
And does it help
And does it help

[King of Snake]

I love this tune. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside ;)
I always find it quite refreshing to hear dance music that is just unashamedly upbeat and happy, like Rez, TMO or Jumbo.
Is "it sounds like song, not a tune" a serious criticism? It seems to me that the two terms are largely interchangeable.

[BeautifulBurnout]

I'm loving it too. A distinct poppy, electro sound almost. But so what. It makes me feel happy. :D

[dubman]

it all feels very "live" doesnt it? i suspect the basic mechanics would still be there for a studio version but the rest would get a major facelift. feels raw enough that speculation is almost a bit pointless, so.. we'll see?

[TheBang]

I think it grows on you too. The first time I heard it during soundcheck, I was like, "Wow, I dunno about that synth line......" But now, it's been playing in the hotel room a lot.

[Dunwho]

mmmm that synth has to go... or at least be toned down... im cool with the lyrics.. but the sound is very dated (as has been said here already) I love the lyrics and the happy feel... and the synth doesnt have to be taken away but at least toned down a bit...

I amnt the biggest fan of Between Stars either.. im hoping that these two arnt a show for what the new album will be like. These arnt grooves, their not conventional dance...

...in fact i dont think its dance at all.. at times this song sounds like stadium rock! Its a bit silly.

And whats really been letting me down is how uninventive the drumming is on these two tracks.. (BS and DJ) when i listen to OWB the quality of the drum sounds and also their complexity is fantastic... and drums has always been a huge quality to UW

hmmmmm

[King of Snake]

These arnt grooves, their not conventional dance...
...in fact i dont think its dance at all.. at times this song sounds like stadium rock! Its a bit silly.


oh man "it's not conventional dance"?!
Are you saying that you would prefer if it was conventional?
wtf do you mean by "these aren't grooves" anyway? Define what is a groove to you then?
I realise everyone has their own taste but some of the criticisms leveled here are just...well, silly.

It's like we're still in the early 90's and dance/rock crossover never happened. Underworld in particular were always mentioned as a band that made a successfull crossover between rock, pop and techno.


And whats really been letting me down is how uninventive the drumming is on these two tracks.. (BS and DJ) when i listen to OWB the quality of the drum sounds and also their complexity is fantastic... and drums has always been a huge quality to UW
well personally I'm glad not every track has to be a Beautiful Burnout-style bongo-fest.

[Dirty0900]

Recent rips of this and Between Stars are making me think good stuff is coming alongside:

Bamboo
You Do Scribble
Always Loved A Film
Strumpet

[khouri]

This song reminds me of Moroder's "Never Ending Story".

[Dunwho]

oh man "it's not conventional dance"?!
Are you saying that you would prefer if it was conventional?
wtf do you mean by "these aren't grooves" anyway? Define what is a groove to you then?
I realise everyone has their own taste but some of the criticisms leveled here are just...well, silly.

It's like we're still in the early 90's and dance/rock crossover never happened. Underworld in particular were always mentioned as a band that made a successfull crossover between rock, pop and techno.


well personally I'm glad not every track has to be a Beautiful Burnout-style bongo-fest.

Well first of all i dont mean to offend anyone, its just an opinion and im a little taken aback at how strong your reaction was..

By groove i mean a good solid synth progression thats not too long and repeats over and over. Ontop of this then you develop the groove with more elements and it builds and builds. I know when i dance to Dance music i want to get into that groove.. hear how the song progresses and react to how a new element warps the already established groove and so on so forth.. i guess thats progressive house in a nut shell. But think of Jumbo, Rowla, Moaner, Two Months Off, Glam Bucket, Holding Moth, Spoonman, etc etc etc... all these songs represent each main album release by UWmkII and they all follow this principle of developing grooves and hypnotic rhythms..

I dont see this in the BS and DJ

And this also helps to explain what i mean by conventional Dance - I dont feel like i can really dance to this new music... there is nothing to really get lost in.. nothing pumping at me to make me go longer and dance harder... give it everything i have ... its just not there.

And im not just talking about huge pumping tunes like .Nuxx - 8Ball has the same effect and others like it

As far as the Drumming comment goes... listen to Crocodile and you instantly hear a rich texture of low-end rhythms, maybe not all drum sounds but still a real good solid rhythmic quality, Ring Road has the obvious drums but listen behind that and there is some reall good play on the high hats and what sounds like a bit of bongo which really drives the song forward and keeps a bit of momentum. I could throw in a few "Second Toughest" songs but you would probably say that that was all Darren Emmerson or something..

I am a fan of some of the MkI material too and while i amnt the biggest fan of Diamond Jigsaw and Between Stars yet, i am open to let them grow on me. I really like Strumpet however, i did wonder if they would develop on the sound of strumpet and clearly they have... I just hope that they take these songs and really give them a good going over, even as pop songs i wouldnt be ove rthe moon about these, especially when i know just how good the lads can be, i would love to hear them take these songs and develop on them in a more dance orientated fashion or even just to thicken up the sound and give it more richness.. they just seem a little weak to me..

Im cool to discuss the songs but dont get so agressive over it.. not everyone is going to see eye to eye.

[King of Snake]

I'm just being "aggressive" for the sake of argument man, don't take it too personally. I never said that you offended anyone either but if you say something like "its not conventional dance" or "it's not a groove" you can expect someone to pick up on it and ask you wtf you're talking about. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
If we didn't have a fight about liking or not liking a new uw track from time to time this forum would soooo boring.

[starfox203]

I love this tune. Yes it's a bit retro - almost New Order sounding, but it really rocks. Nothing wrong with uplifting at all. I like that Underworld mixes it up a bit.

After OWB, which had some amazing moments, but is kind of a downer record in tone, having a full on dance record with uplifting tracks would be great.

I hope a new album consists of

Between Stars
Diamond Jigsaw
Strumpet
Always Loved a Film
Darc
Telematic Peal
Bamboo
Moon in Water

I'll take You Do Scribble as well, though it's not that compelling to me, though I know it is well loved here.

[qirex]

Well darc, alwys loved.., telematic all have been released already so I doubt those would be on a new album. Strumpet, diamond, between stars will prob either hit an album or atleast a river run

[jose m]

Well darc, alwys loved.., telematic all have been released already so I doubt those would be on a new album. Strumpet, diamond, between stars will prob either hit an album or atleast a river run


alaf & telematic have been released?:confused:

[dubman]

i think hes taking its availability as a 'stream' in the audio section to mean it's 'released'

which would be wrong.

[starfox203]

Versions of Telematic and ALAF have been released with statements that they are not complete.

In fact, the version of Telematic that I most prefer, I have edited from a web broadcast and it is way different than the versions available on UWL.

[qirex]

alaf & telematic have been released?:confused:

yeah, werent they hosted on UW live along with like 4 versions of phonestrap? I doubt they'd sell songs they hosted for free.

edit: I see

[testudo]

Well, they didn't, so here is Diamond Jigsaw from Vegas. Enjoy!


So the question is: where is the rest of the recording of this show? :D

[TheBang]

There are 2 recordings of this show. Keep an eye on RTSR, as that is where you'll find them. One of the problems is that my main computer has been at the Apple Store for repair for a week and a half now. Now that I'm back home, I'll call them and see what's up.

[bas_I_am]

One of the problems is that my main computer has been at the Apple Store for repair for a week and a half now

what? a mac went down?

I thought that never happened!

[Dirty0900]

If we all liked the same stuff this would be a crap forum. We need hot debates like the UK nationality thing.

I for one love You Do Scribble where I know Numberonesuperfan Matt doesn't. I also detest Thing In A Book from the old days which a lot of people like.

[Dunwho]

If we all liked the same stuff this would be a crap forum. We need hot debates like the UK nationality thing.

I for one love You Do Scribble where I know Numberonesuperfan Matt doesn't. I also detest Thing In A Book from the old days which a lot of people like.


I agree, need the debate

[Maethodik]

Moon in Water And Darc? I don't know these tracks..
Where can I find them?

[Maethodik]

For Darc do you mean Parc in The Bells The Bells?

[Dunwho]

Moon in Water And Darc? I don't know these tracks..
Where can I find them?
Moon In Water was in a radio broadcast... not sure which one.. but if you check the tracklistings on the UWlive broadcast page you should see it in there..

.. its a lovely piece of music

[Dirty0900]

For Darc do you mean Parc in The Bells The Bells?

Yer Darc was changed to Parc ad Darc in Japanese where it has only been released means something rude apparantly.

Moon In Water is a test tracks featuring floaty synths and computer vocals as part of UW using a certain type of software. It's ok but nothing that will make you dump your fav track in order for it.

[Maethodik]

OK, Thanks. I hope that they include phonestrap 4 in new album.
They've so many tracks..

[TheBang]

We need hot debates like the UK nationality thing.
No, that was a retarded "debate".

I also detest Thing In A Book from the old days
But if it's a fight you're looking for...

[starfox203]

OK, so I didn't put this up last night, because I thought for sure they would play Diamond Jigsaw tonight on the broadcast and everyone would hear it. Well, they didn't, so here is Diamond Jigsaw from Vegas. Enjoy!

http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/lvdiamondjigsaw.mp3


Thanks for posting this. It's great!

Any chance you can edit a version that's a bit longer in the end. It seems like it gets cut off rather abruptly.

[TheBang]

That was the end of it. It was a rather abrupt transition.

[stimpee]

I like the melody and the beat but the instruments need fine tuning. Sound a bit raw. I look forward to the finished product but its not ready for release yet.

[crank]

yeah, kind of reminds me of 1984 by Van Halen. Don't know why.

[Dunwho]

Ok its growing on me.... the Van Halen factor still needs to be toned down though IMO but.... it IS growing on me...

[TheBang]

I told you. It gets you on the repeat listenings.

[crazysugarboy]

Thx very much TheBang for the download link - it's now on the iPod almost on repeat! It is so upbeat and makes me want to smile & dance :)

[Bargo]

After getting over the initial feeling of 'this doesn't sound like the UW I'm used to' I found myself getting quite into this song on the successive listens, I think Bang is pretty much spot on. :) Very happy and feel-good!

[big screen satellite]

fuck me - i've just listened to this - are we back in the 80's????

that being the case - i love it obviously, but if i played this on my radio show - 'fromage' would be mentioned a few times, i believe ...

i can imagine this in a movie soundtrack - like footloose or breakfast club

i love it but its super commercial ....

[Dunwho]

i love it but its super commercial ....

Oooooo hittin the nail right on the head with that one....

[SappysCurry]

First off....the recording on that clip is terrific! Did you manage to get the whole show?!?!?!

Secondly...when we heard this at the Joint the first thing we thought of was that the synth sounds just like a theme song from some 1980's cop or lawyer TV show.

[TheBang]

Did you manage to get the whole show?!?!?! Yes, keep eyes on RTSR.

Secondly...when we heard this at the Joint the first thing we thought of was that the synth sounds just like a theme song from some 1980's cop or lawyer TV show. Yeah, I definitely felt it was an 80's throwback too. I'm sure it was a very deliberate decision.

[SappysCurry]

Yes, keep eyes on RTSR.

Yeah, I definitely felt it was an 80's throwback too. I'm sure it was a very deliberate decision.

Yes agree, very deliberate approach....but I also feel like it's not nearly finished enough yet. I mean, they've played it maybe a handful of times live so far whereas Between Stars sounds finished and they're playing it out like crazy.

As for the Tracker...Bang you are my fucking hero. Now my g.f. can catch the rest of what she missed since the bouncers at the Joint wouldn't let her back in after she went outside because they were being total dicks. She and I both thank you profusely!

[34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j]

This has the feel of an 80's tech instructional video. I would love them to release something like this!! Keep on with the new stuff!

[34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j]

Ok just heard this all the way through for the first time. I love it. I actually really like the synth tone in this one. It's time to bring shit like that back.

[big screen satellite]

Ok just heard this all the way through for the first time. I love it. I actually really like the synth tone in this one. It's time to bring shit like that back.


agreed - this tune and the synth needs working to maximum effect - i'd like the 12" just to have the 7" version plus extended version - just like in the 80's (you can keep the freur style hair and clothes though they can stay in the past...)

[34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j]

agreed - this tune and the synth needs working to maximum effect - i'd like the 12" just to have the 7" version plus extended version - just like in the 80's (you can keep the freur style hair and clothes though they can stay in the past...)

No kidding to everyone that says that it sounds too 80's let's remember that lots of great tunes were made in the 80's!!

I like the song a lot, but honestly it IS the synth tone that makes this a great one for me!! It really does work!! Don't change it please!!!

Signed,
10000 Underworld fans

[big screen satellite]

Underworld are going full circle with this, they started out in the 80's lets call it a comeback

the synth is THIS tune...

even if its unworked - I keep playing this live version because its awesome... :D




on a side note - i think the lyrical presentation on Diamond Jigsaw is a bit similar in style to Oasis (and a bit like cigarettes and alcohol) - maybe its only me...

[stimpee]

No kidding to everyone that says that it sounds too 80's let's remember that lots of great tunes were made in the 80's!!Yes but lots of great tunes were not made by Underworld in the 80s. It hasnt aged well. (sorry rick/karl). I know theres a sort of 80s revival but this song has to change. I think its just being played now in a live setting with "proper" instruments and that Rick will modify it and make it sound more "underworldy" later. The basics are good. I like it, but I'm not in a hurry to hear a studio version until the band are finished with it. If thats next year, then fine. Meanwhile, lets enjoy hearing it live and hopefully hearing the changes that are being made.

[big screen satellite]

Yes but lots of great tunes were not made by Underworld in the 80s. It hasnt aged well. (sorry rick/karl). I know theres a sort of 80s revival but this song has to change. I think its just being played now in a live setting with "proper" instruments and that Rick will modify it and make it sound more "underworldy" later. The basics are good. I like it, but I'm not in a hurry to hear a studio version until the band are finished with it. If thats next year, then fine. Meanwhile, lets enjoy hearing it live and hopefully hearing the changes that are being made.

hmmm its underworldy already - with Karl's vocals - thats all you need the rest can stay - especially the synth stabs - it does need polishing but not that much

[Dirty0900]

Well, I'm ruddy loving this, constantly on my iPod alongside Deep Arch oddly. Good to hear more new songs with vocal alongside Between Stars.

Bamboo and You Do Scribble are good as well, but missing Karl's lyrics.

[potatobroth]

i really like it. its a quality track imo. something about it is making me smile. would i like an entire album of this 'sound'? nope. but this track sure is fun.

[Champiness]

I love the song, personally. It's like an MK. I track done from the perspective of Underworld today. Admittedly there's a bit of a rift between it and the other songs they've been trying out live lately, but then again there was a similar rift between Two Months off and the rest of the AHDO songs, and the boys made that work out just fine. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Diamond Jigsaw was the lone survivor of or among the few survivors of UW6 for live performances in the future (as was the case with Two Months Off and, more recently, Beautiful Burnout).

[irishboy]

I LOOOOVVVEEE it :)

[holden]

Ok, this track is growing on me with additional spins. Buuuut, 1) i'm predisposed to love Underworld and 2)i therefore probably overreact to the good and am perhaps harder on tracks i don't like.

Yes, it's super catchy. But with the 1980's synth sound, i can't shake the feeling that i'm listening to "Valerie" by Steve Winwood or something.

[froopy seal]

I also detest Thing In A Book from the old days which a lot of people like.Hot debates an' all - fine with me. But this is just crossing the line, you..., you... thing-in-a-book-hater! :mad:

;)

[Dirty0900]

Hot debates an' all - fine with me. But this is just crossing the line, you..., you... thing-in-a-book-hater! :mad:

;)

It's 15 minutes too long.

[big screen satellite]

It's 15 minutes too long.


how do you feel about 215 miles?

[Vectorman0]

TheBang, thanks for sharing such a high quality recording for us to enjoy.

I love this song.

I would be perfectly happy with it staying the way it is, however I think there is a lot of potential here for change to the song. More so than many of the other unreleased pieces, especially Strumpet.

[Dirty0900]

how do you feel about 215 miles?

It's better then TIAB.

[Mike]

Its about 200 miles too long.

[ThingInABook]

it's a fun song and i'm waiting to see what they can do with it in the studio, because it sounds a little bit pop-ish, and that's not a bad thing, it's just too different from what uw has been doing for years.

[testudo]

Once the boys are done with it, DJ is going to be huge. MARK MY WORDS!
:cool:

[testudo]

hmmm... still would love to have other versions! I am desperately seeking live recordings of it!

[TheBang]

It's only been played twice or so.