REAL MADRID - Fuck OFF

[big screen satellite]

that's it i've had it with Real Madrid

what is it with European players, that they want to play for Real for...?

seriously, there are probably about 10-12 big clubs in this game, but does every player want to play for Real above everything else....??

"I've dreamed about playing here since I was 15 years of age." - Benzema

ditto - Ronaldo

and now the Real President wants a European super league because he can't be arsed playing shit teams in Champions League qualifiers... erm Real when were you last in semi final of the Champions League... 2003 i think - yeah i know you've won it more than anyone else, but fuck off - its not like its been easy for you in the last 6 years, and now just because you have bought everyone available - DOES not mean you will win it this year either...

Do you want to play for Real or because they pay the best wages...

i'm not bitter because we lost Ronaldo, he was always going to go (because of his 'dream') nor bitter for losing out on Benzema, i'd be annoyed if i was any other club.

Real need to be stopped and stopped soon before they ruin the game, don't blame Man City for having money because no one dreams of playing there and never will - sorry City fans... its just - why Real? United, Liverpool, Barca, and many other clubs have the history and challenges that Real have...

ho hum... i'm turning into Rafa Benitez...

[Dirty0900]

You have Michael Owen, so be happy;)

[BeautifulBurnout]

i'm not bitter because we lost Ronaldo,

Oh chinny reck-on.

Oh Jimmy Hill.

:D

[froopy seal]

Do you want to play for Real or because they pay the best wages...Of course they do. I'd do the same if I could play.

Get over it. Pro football is a ruthless industry, esp. with all the merchandising and slave trade going on.

[happiness stan]

Oh chinny reck-on.

Oh Jimmy Hill.


Classic. Long overdue for a revival.

There is talk about Spain closing the executive tax loophole, I've no idea if this will happen but as soon as it does we can expect to hear slightly different "It's always been my dream...." statements.

edit: from the bbc gossip section:
A host of stars are set to turn their back on playing in England because of the more favourable financial conditions in Spain, where tax is capped at 40% and big earners can pay as little as 24% tax if they exploit a loophole and acquire "foreign executive" status.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Jermaine Pennant, really?

[IsiliRunite]

I don't think Real's summer spending spree guarantees them a Champions League win. I thought their last season blunders were Defensive... but haven't they signed offensive-minded players just recently? I would think going rock-for-rock with EPL teams is risky business for a team with the 'attack' mindset, because they could easily get outfoxed.

They could have other pre-existing strengths, but I was never not too familiar with last seaons's roster.

[Rog]

that's it i've had it with Real Madrid

what is it with European players, that they want to play for Real for...?

seriously, there are probably about 10-12 big clubs in this game, but does every player want to play for Real above everything else....??

"I've dreamed about playing here since I was 15 years of age." - Benzema

ditto - Ronaldo

and now the Real President wants a European super league because he can't be arsed playing shit teams in Champions League qualifiers... erm Real when were you last in semi final of the Champions League... 2003 i think - yeah i know you've won it more than anyone else, but fuck off - its not like its been easy for you in the last 6 years, and now just because you have bought everyone available - DOES not mean you will win it this year either...

Do you want to play for Real or because they pay the best wages...

i'm not bitter because we lost Ronaldo, he was always going to go (because of his 'dream') nor bitter for losing out on Benzema, i'd be annoyed if i was any other club.

Real need to be stopped and stopped soon before they ruin the game, don't blame Man City for having money because no one dreams of playing there and never will - sorry City fans... its just - why Real? United, Liverpool, Barca, and many other clubs have the history and challenges that Real have...

ho hum... i'm turning into Rafa Benitez...

rattle out of the pram time?:p:D

[sanblaster]

The culé in me is happy to see there's no people with the new Real's t-shirt, at least in England. I just don't want their plan to be successful, even more when there's the Barça squad model (7 players from the youth categories in the starting team for most of the games last season).

I think Florentino has gone a bit too far this time. One thing was cooking the transfer all summer long and end up signing "just" one star - 3 at a time is too much. What would piss me off is see that management philosophy turns out to be successful (I'm talking money rather than silverware).

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rattle out of the pram time?:p:D

along with the dummy :D

come on, matt - you got owen for nowt... many a mickle maks a muckle for old man fergie... you can't blame madrid for going mad with their money when they look at the likes of big chelsea and man city doing exactly the same thing. that's the market at the moment; and there's even more incentive in spain for them to try and buy success as there's less competition when it comes to buying power. barca might be able to spend; but have shown that they can acheive greatness with a well-structured club philosophy; and hats off to them for it - makes them a far-more respected and liked team in my book.

the premier league only began to outdo other european leagues when it was able to outspend them, remember - players (or agents, rather) are attracted where there's most money.

probably the only person who's made an emotional move is ronaldo -the money will have helped; but he'd far rather ponce about in a shirt he's been coverting all his life than carry on being paid megabucks by fergie. the money will help, of course; but i dont' think he'd've left for any other club.

[big screen satellite]

along with the dummy :D

come on, matt - you got owen for nowt... many a mickle maks a muckle for old man fergie... you can't blame madrid for going mad with their money when they look at the likes of big chelsea and man city doing exactly the same thing. .

well they can fuck off too... except that I don't hear many players saying that they've dreamed of playing for Chelsea or City since they were born

the players being lured to City are purely tempted by the dollar, at least Ronaldo's claim to play for RM is thinly disguised as love for the club too (how 'bout you play for them for free Ron?)

Barry is the prime example at City... as is Tevez, although its more his agent than him - (that's a different matter altogether) - either way Real are suddenly scuppering every deal going because if a player has shown the slightest interest in RM, then if another club comes in, its like, well Real are interested so how about paying three times over the odds...??!?!?

they paid too much for Ronaldo, and Kaka and Benzema

Real buying 4 or 5 players at all over inflated prices in one season, like City are doing is going to alert everyone to the fact and then players get over valued

United have paid high prices before but that was partly because of who we were not just because we had the money, with these current deals its all about who has the money to spend and nothing else...United have £80m to spend in reality but Fergie doesn't want to spend it on one over priced teenage wannabe that's gonna fuck off to Real at the first sign of greatness...

I'm glad Fergie has said enough's enough (even if people think its a bit rich coming from him)

apart from Man City no one in the premiership has paid the prices, and therefore its still a fairly level playing field, so far... fuck Europe or Real, i'm glad Ron's gone for the dollar, and Tevez for that matter.

The trouble will be if RM's plan works and that they win La Liga and the Champions League... let's hope they and City fail and prove that spending big all the time doesn't work...

30 years ago Trevor Francis went for £999,999 now look at it.

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you sound more rattled than realistic. the transfer market started to get silly when the bosman ruling came in and agents saw how they could cash in. since then, money has flowed out of the game and into their pockets. chelski accelerated the process; but it paid off and got them established as a winning club in the top 4, so set a template for others to follow.

you talk about players dreaming of playing for a club (i take it you mean man u) when comparing chelsea or man city; then take the piss out of a player who has signed for such a club. it's not as though man u's prop-full of players playing for nothing, is it?

the market is mad; and if fergie succeeds by winning despite it i'd be happy to see him do so, as the chelsea/city hoovering spoils the game somewhat. and it's funnier to see chelsea fail because of the blank looks and seething rage the ignorant johnny-come-latelies that can't understand why things aren't necessarily their's by right!

[big screen satellite]

the market is mad; and if fergie succeeds by winning despite it i'd be happy to see him do so, as the chelsea/city hoovering spoils the game somewhat. and it's funnier to see chelsea fail because of the blank looks and seething rage the ignorant johnny-come-latelies that can't understand why things aren't necessarily their's by right!

i agree - i'd rather see Man City succeed than Chelsea, City

the market has exploded but this year its got too silly - it is what it is I suppose, I'm just more upset that a player like Benzema choose Real Madrid over United - because he 'claimed' he'd always wanted to play for them (I find that is, in the wake of Ronaldo leaving, 'the' thing to say now rather than its the 'best deal for me') - because you can bet that when the day comes that a better deal comes along both he and Ronaldo will up sticks and go somewhere else... money rules the game - and i wish the 80,000 fans in the Benerbau who turned out to see Ronaldo would understand that... the Galacticos project failed last time around - will this new lot work...?

United no doubt have some mercenaries on their books - Berbatov appears to be one, but we'll see, but over the past few years United have had many loyal servants who have committed to the club and despite many offers don't leave - Giggs for one... I'd rather we were a selling club when our players are past their best or don't make the grade that's all...

Rooney was at Everton a club he loved and supports - and as such wanted to play for all his life but left to further his career as a footballer - if he always wanted to play for Everton why leave? At the time money may have been a factor but to be at the better club and win trophies and further his England career were probably the motivators. Is Ronaldo going to further his career - probably not - he's won it all already - further his bank account yeah for sure - if he can win over the fans by saying its where I always wanted to play then good luck to him!

I just don't believe the United fans fall for such tricks they don't turn out in their thousands and welcome messiahs like they do in Spain or the North East ;) How many were at Owen's unveiling at OT? ;)

You have to work hard for your right to kiss the badge at OT that's all...

Real can still FUCK OFF (i've always had a soft spot for Barca anyways....)

[stimpee]

Real need to be stopped and stopped soon before they ruin the game, don't blame Man City for having money because no one dreams of playing there and never will - sorry City fans... its just - why Real? United, Liverpool, Barca, and many other clubs have the history and challenges that Real have...

ho hum... i'm turning into Rafa Benitez...No-one ever dreamed of playing for Chelsea before they got the money and won the league 2 years in a row. Who's to say Man City wont do that? Well, they dont have a special one (even if he is an ex-Man Utd/Chelsea legend).

Real Madrid = big team with big history, and thats a good enough excuse to give when players are being interviewed. What they really mean is they still get CL football, the weather is nice, and they get big fat wages and a massive tax break.

But Matt, you really shouldnt be moaning. You've just sold some of your best players to your enemies, your club is owned by a guy who couldnt afford it and plunged your club into about a billion pounds worth of debt but despite that you won the league. Just imagine what would happen if you had a shit manager and all this happened... You'd be in the Championship with all the other teams in debt who sold their best players.

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I just don't believe the United fans fall for such tricks they don't turn out in their thousands and welcome messiahs like they do in Spain or the North East ;)

...that's because it's way too far to travel at short notice :D

[big screen satellite]

But Matt, you really shouldnt be moaning. You've just sold some of your best players to your enemies, your club is owned by a guy who couldnt afford it and plunged your club into about a billion pounds worth of debt but despite that you won the league. Just imagine what would happen if you had a shit manager and all this happened... You'd be in the Championship with all the other teams in debt who sold their best players.

i'm no economist but in reality United are not in debt, the man who owns it is.

The club is worth say £1bn, if it was put up for sale by its owners which, no doubt it will, they will walk away with money (which was their intention) and United will have another buyer. United won't go the way of Leeds, for example, because United are arguable the biggest club in the world and can generate money and have a worth that more than covers their debts -

I own my own home, except that i don't i owe the Bank the money, its the same principle... United's owners have taken a mortgage to own the club, and in effect the value of that 'house' has risen and will be worth more to someone when they come to buy it...

Lower league clubs are all in debt somehow, but all clubs have a worth its just whether that worth is more or less than the debt owed, at United it clearly is, if one player can be sold for £80m a whole squad is worth approx the value of the debt...

Whether Glazer took out a loan against the club or against something else he's borrowed to finance the purchase of the club, but ultimately that's his burden, if he can't service it then he can go and someone else will cough up and buy the business... which sadly is what it is.

[Rog]

...that's because it's way too far to travel at short notice :D


LOL!:D:D:D

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Just responding because I like the "Fuck OFF" part. No ill will to Madrid, I think.

[Jason Roth]

bump.

GO BARCA!!!!

[Eikman]

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[Jason Roth]

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